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I just moved to NYC from California a year ago. In many ways my quality of life has shot way up. You can't beat the transportation, food, culture, and intellige

by rm999 14y ago

I just moved to NYC from California a year ago. In many ways my quality of life has shot way up. You can't beat the transportation, food, culture, and intelligent, diverse population. Cities are perfect for attracting the kind of young, interesting, and smart people tech companies want to attract. Also, tech companies are often capable of generating relatively high profit per employee; for these companies, the biggest downside of a city (cost) is not as big of an issue.

w1ntermute 14y ago
> I just moved to NYC from California a year ago. In many ways my quality of life has shot way up. You can't beat the transportation, food, culture, and intelligent, diverse population. I concede that NYC has the best public transportation in the country, but you must have been living in the sticks in California if you think that you can't find "food, culture, and intelligent, diverse population" there.
- carterschonwald 14y ago
  Not needing a Car is the the distinction here though.
  - w1ntermute 14y ago
    Then he should've said only that, and not the other things. I already conceded that public transportation was better in NYC.
    - rayiner 14y ago
      The transportation issue permeates everything though. Culture is only available if it is accessible. My parents live in Northern VA, and they've got tons of culture around, in theory: museums in DC, great ethnic food in Arlington, etc. But in practice it's a such a huge pain in the ass to get anywhere that the actual culture available to them is total whitewashed suburban dreck.
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      - carterschonwald 14y ago
        exactly! Also a secondary upside for the younger set is that 24/7 good public transit is a lot safer for those folks to travel late at night.
- cncool 14y ago
  He didn't say he couldn't find "food, culture, and intelligent, diverse population" there.
- michaelt 14y ago
  Culture depends on travel distance - everywhere can claim to have culture if you're willing to drive far enough. The only claim to culture that Mountain View or Cupertino has is being within driving distance of San Francisco.
  - rachelbythebay 14y ago
    Culture is more than the petri dish of your city's sidewalks. There is life outside of the 415.
  - anamax 14y ago
    > The only claim to culture that Mountain View or Cupertino has is being within driving distance of San Francisco. That's true iff you define culture as opera and symphony and certain kinds of museums. If your definition includes things that one might find in SF's mission district and/or Chinatown, there's culture all over the southbay. For some definitions, Berkeley is the only place in the bay area that "has culture". For others, Oakland is it. FWIW, there are reasonable definitions of "culture" that can't be satisfied in the US.
    - Retric 14y ago
      I can't think of any. PS: Assuming native american cultures are included as part of the US.
    - michaelt 14y ago
      For sure, everywhere has culture if your definition of culture is sufficiently malleable. To me moving from California to New York for culture makes sense, for a lot of locations in California. Perhaps instead of saying you can't beat New York for culture, I should say I can't beat New York for culture!
      - anamax 14y ago
        > For sure, everywhere has culture if your definition of culture is sufficiently malleable. That's not what I wrote. I wrote that different folks think that culture means different things, not that those folks have a changing definition of culture. I get that you like NYC. However, I'll bet that you don't actually take advantage of the culture that you find essential all that often. You're paying for the ability to drop in on a broadway show every day even though you'll likely do it only once every 3-5 years. I'm glad that you think that you're getting value for your money. How about being respectful of other people's choices wrt their money?
- Mvandenbergh 14y ago
  Some things are also just a matter of taste. If you're really into theatre for instance, it's hard to beat NYC. If you don't care about that but you really hate cold weather then obviously you're going to choose differently!
- rm999 14y ago
  I never said you can't find those things in California, nor did I even ever directly compare any city in California with NYC. "Can't beat" is an idiom, it means I think those things are pretty awesome in NYC :)
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- eternalban 14y ago
  http://mlink.20x200.com/view/503d2c2fdc87ac0b4f19128alyyl.v2u/c2eec6c2?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweet&utm_campaign=brooklyn http://mlink.20x200.com/view/503d2c2fdc87ac0b4f19128alyyl.v2... Can't beat means it sets the standard.
hnwh 14y ago
Which part of CA were you living in? Thinking of making a similar move
carterschonwald 14y ago
Fact, thats why I'm working in NYC as I get WellPosed off the ground :) That plus I'm a native. I have to say one fun upside to NYC is that theres lots of interesting smart folks (both young and old) doing cool stuff that isn't just "website as a business". The wee coworking space I use is especially fun because I'm surrounded by smart young pros doing high end work in design , architecture, fashion, etc. Variety is good for the brain, especially when designing numerical algorithms all day :)
dohko 14y ago
I am actually thinking on doing the opposite move. NYC is great If you earn a lot of money and don't mind spending it. Also everything that is a commodity elsewhere, in NYC is a luxury. (A car, washers and dryer, etc.). It's also unbelievably overcrowded. In the end it can be tons of fun, but if you like good weather, less crowded, cheaper places and more laid back relaxed environments then NYC is not the right place. I would much rather prefer san Francisco or Santa Monica

by rm999 14y ago

w1ntermute 14y ago

> I just moved to NYC from California a year ago. In many ways my quality of life has shot way up. You can't beat the transportation, food, culture, and intelligent, diverse population. I concede that NYC has the best public transportation in the country, but you must have been living in the sticks in California if you think that you can't find "food, culture, and intelligent, diverse population" there.

carterschonwald 14y ago
Not needing a Car is the the distinction here though.
- w1ntermute 14y ago
  Then he should've said only that, and not the other things. I already conceded that public transportation was better in NYC.
  - rayiner 14y ago
    The transportation issue permeates everything though. Culture is only available if it is accessible. My parents live in Northern VA, and they've got tons of culture around, in theory: museums in DC, great ethnic food in Arlington, etc. But in practice it's a such a huge pain in the ass to get anywhere that the actual culture available to them is total whitewashed suburban dreck.
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    - carterschonwald 14y ago
      exactly! Also a secondary upside for the younger set is that 24/7 good public transit is a lot safer for those folks to travel late at night.
cncool 14y ago
He didn't say he couldn't find "food, culture, and intelligent, diverse population" there.
michaelt 14y ago
Culture depends on travel distance - everywhere can claim to have culture if you're willing to drive far enough. The only claim to culture that Mountain View or Cupertino has is being within driving distance of San Francisco.
- rachelbythebay 14y ago
  Culture is more than the petri dish of your city's sidewalks. There is life outside of the 415.
- anamax 14y ago
  > The only claim to culture that Mountain View or Cupertino has is being within driving distance of San Francisco. That's true iff you define culture as opera and symphony and certain kinds of museums. If your definition includes things that one might find in SF's mission district and/or Chinatown, there's culture all over the southbay. For some definitions, Berkeley is the only place in the bay area that "has culture". For others, Oakland is it. FWIW, there are reasonable definitions of "culture" that can't be satisfied in the US.
  - Retric 14y ago
    I can't think of any. PS: Assuming native american cultures are included as part of the US.
  - michaelt 14y ago
    For sure, everywhere has culture if your definition of culture is sufficiently malleable. To me moving from California to New York for culture makes sense, for a lot of locations in California. Perhaps instead of saying you can't beat New York for culture, I should say I can't beat New York for culture!
    - anamax 14y ago
      > For sure, everywhere has culture if your definition of culture is sufficiently malleable. That's not what I wrote. I wrote that different folks think that culture means different things, not that those folks have a changing definition of culture. I get that you like NYC. However, I'll bet that you don't actually take advantage of the culture that you find essential all that often. You're paying for the ability to drop in on a broadway show every day even though you'll likely do it only once every 3-5 years. I'm glad that you think that you're getting value for your money. How about being respectful of other people's choices wrt their money?
Mvandenbergh 14y ago
Some things are also just a matter of taste. If you're really into theatre for instance, it's hard to beat NYC. If you don't care about that but you really hate cold weather then obviously you're going to choose differently!
rm999 14y ago
I never said you can't find those things in California, nor did I even ever directly compare any city in California with NYC. "Can't beat" is an idiom, it means I think those things are pretty awesome in NYC :)
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eternalban 14y ago
http://mlink.20x200.com/view/503d2c2fdc87ac0b4f19128alyyl.v2u/c2eec6c2?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweet&utm_campaign=brooklyn http://mlink.20x200.com/view/503d2c2fdc87ac0b4f19128alyyl.v2... Can't beat means it sets the standard.

hnwh 14y ago

Which part of CA were you living in? Thinking of making a similar move

carterschonwald 14y ago

Fact, thats why I'm working in NYC as I get WellPosed off the ground :) That plus I'm a native. I have to say one fun upside to NYC is that theres lots of interesting smart folks (both young and old) doing cool stuff that isn't just "website as a business". The wee coworking space I use is especially fun because I'm surrounded by smart young pros doing high end work in design , architecture, fashion, etc. Variety is good for the brain, especially when designing numerical algorithms all day :)

dohko 14y ago

I am actually thinking on doing the opposite move. NYC is great If you earn a lot of money and don't mind spending it. Also everything that is a commodity elsewhere, in NYC is a luxury. (A car, washers and dryer, etc.). It's also unbelievably overcrowded. In the end it can be tons of fun, but if you like good weather, less crowded, cheaper places and more laid back relaxed environments then NYC is not the right place. I would much rather prefer san Francisco or Santa Monica