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You're correct that uninhabitable was my exaggeration and the OP's reasonable point was that some parts of the US would see less impressive outcomes. But from

You're correct that uninhabitable was my exaggeration and the OP's reasonable point was that some parts of the US would see less impressive outcomes. But from a brief Google California isn't even in the 10 most southerly states in the US. While I have broader problems with the political direction of travel of this site in general my main concern is trying to shake Americans out of this fatalism where nothing ever works, nothing is possible and the country has to be left to decay. You guys landed on the moon for goodness sake, where's that America gone?

SoftTalker 1y ago
> where's that America gone It basically died when we became divided into two camps, neither of which can support any proposal if the other side supports it too. People are more concerned with feeling they've won an argument than actually achieving anything.
- Guid_NewGuid 1y ago
  It's interesting because I'm very ideological about politics in the UK. I have a burning hatred for the party that just left power after 14 years to the point that would make most zealots look positively tame. However I will concede that the UK has made pretty good progress on energy transition with a fairly broad base of support from most major parties and a lot of that transition happened under the party I detest. While the UK faces some ongoing challenges: - Transmission bottlenecks in Scotland - Dwindling opportunities for offshore wind construction - Natural gas for heating in an old and poorly insulated housing stock - Electricity prices tied to gas prices - A generation of NIMBYs who don't want wind turbines ruining their view of transmission pylons and ecologically dead sheep pastures - Lack of zonal pricing to incentivize more on-shore renewables And needs to go further and faster I don't think energy generation falls into the same ideological divide there (though this may change with Reform UK and their questionable funding/astroturfing). Certainly net zero and 'green crap' remains contentious but from an actual building-the-thing perspective we're just quietly getting on with it.

SoftTalker 1y ago

> where's that America gone It basically died when we became divided into two camps, neither of which can support any proposal if the other side supports it too. People are more concerned with feeling they've won an argument than actually achieving anything.

Guid_NewGuid 1y ago
It's interesting because I'm very ideological about politics in the UK. I have a burning hatred for the party that just left power after 14 years to the point that would make most zealots look positively tame. However I will concede that the UK has made pretty good progress on energy transition with a fairly broad base of support from most major parties and a lot of that transition happened under the party I detest. While the UK faces some ongoing challenges: - Transmission bottlenecks in Scotland - Dwindling opportunities for offshore wind construction - Natural gas for heating in an old and poorly insulated housing stock - Electricity prices tied to gas prices - A generation of NIMBYs who don't want wind turbines ruining their view of transmission pylons and ecologically dead sheep pastures - Lack of zonal pricing to incentivize more on-shore renewables And needs to go further and faster I don't think energy generation falls into the same ideological divide there (though this may change with Reform UK and their questionable funding/astroturfing). Certainly net zero and 'green crap' remains contentious but from an actual building-the-thing perspective we're just quietly getting on with it.