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Seems OpenAI knew this is forthcoming so they front ran the news? I was really high on Gemini 2.5 Pro after release but I kept going back to o3 for anything I c
by lvl155 1y ago
Seems OpenAI knew this is forthcoming so they front ran the news? I was really high on Gemini 2.5 Pro after release but I kept going back to o3 for anything I cared about.
- sigmoid10 1y ago>I was really high on Gemini 2.5 Pro after release but I kept going back to o3 for anything I cared about Same here. I was impressed by their benchmarks and topping most leaderboards, but in day to day use they still feel so far behind.
- aerhardt 1y agoI use o3, openAI API and Claude Code. Genuinely curious what about Gemini 2.5 is so far behind?
- nicce 1y agoI don’t think it is behind in anything. It is just harder to make obey and redefine the default system command. It is very verbose model by default.
- sigmoid10 1y agoIt's not just much more verbose in general, it easily gets lost in verbosity. As in often trying to solve issues that aren't there. And when you try to make it focus, it doesn't get the issue at all.
- danjl 1y agoI think that's most likely just your view, and not really based on evidence.
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- erichocean 1y agoI regularly have the opposite experience: o3 is almost unusable, and Gemini 2.5 Pro is reliably great. Claude Opus 4 is a close second. o3 is so bad it makes me wonder if I'm being served a different model? My o3 responses are so truncated and simplified as to be useless. Maybe my problems aren't a good fit, but whatever it is: o3 output isn't useful.
- Davidzheng 1y agoI have this distinctive feeling that o3 tries to trick me intentionally when it can't solve a problem by cleverly hiding its mistakes. But I could be imagining it
- int_19h 1y agoIt's certainly the "laziest" model, in the sense that it seems to be the likeliest to avoid doing the actual work and generate "TBD" stubs instead.
- helloplanets 1y agoAre you using a tool other than ChatGPT? If so, check the full prompt that's being sent. It can sometimes kneecap the model. Tools having slightly unsuitable built in prompts/context sometimes lead to the models saying weird stuff out of the blue, instead of it actually being a 'baked in' behavior of the model itself. Seen this happen for both Gemini 2.5 Pro and o3.
- square_usual 1y agoAre you using o3 on the official ChatGPT app or via API? I use it on the app and it performs very well, it's my go-to model for general purpose LLM use.
- erichocean 1y agoofficial ChatGPT app