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> that laundered €460 million ($540 million) from more than 5,000 victims across the world. So they’re averaging just over $100k per victim, I wonder what the

> that laundered €460 million ($540 million) from more than 5,000 victims across the world. So they’re averaging just over $100k per victim, I wonder what the spread is

e1g 1y ago
Almost certainly a couple of whales as they made the investigation happen.
- PaulHoule 1y ago
  When I first starting seeing 419 scams in the 1990s I wondered "Who would expect $10M to fall out of the sky?" As these target the intersection of "rich" and "no common sense", it must be "someone who already had $10M fall out of the sky" and could be a case for more taxation because these people aren't in a position to put money to work in a way that benefits themselves and society.
jacquesm 1y ago
'just'? For some old person that could well be the difference between them having a normal life or becoming destitute. I really don't think that is 'just'.
- Aurornis 1y ago
  The ‘just’ was in reference to rounding to a close whole number, not a judgment on the relative size of the theft.
  - jacquesm 1y ago
    Even with your explanation that's not how I would have read that sentence. But thank you for explaining it. I would have probably used 'a little' or 'a bit' to avoid the confusion.
    - johnisgood 1y ago
      Does it matter as much though? 100k EUR at age 30 would set me for life, too, but I do not care if it is "just" for them. Many people got it better than me. If you would like to help me out, I would appreciate that a lot. I have BuyMeaCoffee account. Even as "small" (relative, because it is a LOT to me) as 300-500 EUR would make an enormous difference in my life (and some people around me, such as my grandma). I have MS, I am 30 years old, and I am unable to work. I would love to get a fully remote job, but I had severe anxiety and depression long before MS gave me brain lesions, so the situation is much worse now, and I have incontinence and immobility issues on top of all this. Plus I have a severe case of impostor syndrome, among a lot of other things I wish I didn't have.
- tom_ 1y ago
  "Just over N" means "slightly more than N".

> that laundered €460 million ($540 million) from more than 5,000 victims across the world. So they’re averaging just over $100k per victim, I wonder what the spread is

e1g 1y ago

Almost certainly a couple of whales as they made the investigation happen.

PaulHoule 1y ago
When I first starting seeing 419 scams in the 1990s I wondered "Who would expect $10M to fall out of the sky?" As these target the intersection of "rich" and "no common sense", it must be "someone who already had $10M fall out of the sky" and could be a case for more taxation because these people aren't in a position to put money to work in a way that benefits themselves and society.

jacquesm 1y ago

'just'? For some old person that could well be the difference between them having a normal life or becoming destitute. I really don't think that is 'just'.

Aurornis 1y ago
The ‘just’ was in reference to rounding to a close whole number, not a judgment on the relative size of the theft.
- jacquesm 1y ago
  Even with your explanation that's not how I would have read that sentence. But thank you for explaining it. I would have probably used 'a little' or 'a bit' to avoid the confusion.
  - johnisgood 1y ago
    Does it matter as much though? 100k EUR at age 30 would set me for life, too, but I do not care if it is "just" for them. Many people got it better than me. If you would like to help me out, I would appreciate that a lot. I have BuyMeaCoffee account. Even as "small" (relative, because it is a LOT to me) as 300-500 EUR would make an enormous difference in my life (and some people around me, such as my grandma). I have MS, I am 30 years old, and I am unable to work. I would love to get a fully remote job, but I had severe anxiety and depression long before MS gave me brain lesions, so the situation is much worse now, and I have incontinence and immobility issues on top of all this. Plus I have a severe case of impostor syndrome, among a lot of other things I wish I didn't have.
tom_ 1y ago
"Just over N" means "slightly more than N".