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I wonder he he also receives that mail or was going to but someone caught it? My post office for a good year was horrendous about delivering me my neighbor's m

• nemomarx 1y ago
  I get that with normal tracking lately too, like Amazon reporting something is delivered the day before it actually shows up. Have we misaligned some metric where now shippers want to announce stuff early so they can claim speed?
  • duxup 1y ago
    Also, lots of emails. For some deliveries I get an email from the carrier, the company I bought the thing through, and someone who handles the actual thing on the other side of the retailer. App notifications. Like guies I get it ... Amusingly, for some obscure software, I write those emails ;)
  • pwg 1y ago
    > like Amazon reporting something is delivered the day before it actually shows up I feel like this one happens because the driver needs to meet quota today, so they scan the package delivered today, then when they are in the area tomorrow they actually deliver the package. Unfortunately, this makes "delivered today" not a reliable indicator of "I actually received the package today".
  • stetrain 1y ago
    That is an incentive for some shippers for sure, and it gets pushed down onto the (often overworked) delivery drivers. They have metrics on how many things they should deliver or attempt delivery each day and are sometimes judged harshly on those metrics. I have multiple times seen an "Out for Delivery" package switch to "Delivered" or "Delivery Attempted" at 10pm, presumably when the driver ended their shift and didn't want to be penalized for the undelivered packages. They usually showed up the following day.
    • crazygringo 1y ago
      > I have multiple times seen an "Out for Delivery" package switch to "Delivered" or "Delivery Attempted" at 10pm Exactly this, it's infuriating. And you can usually tell because a) it's marked as delivered at a time rounded to a perfect hour, like 2:00 pm or 9:00 pm (not 8:34 pm), and b) there's no delivery photo, when there always is otherwise. But yeah, it's the driver not being able to make all deliveries (probably not their fault), but needing to fake the metrics. Usually they drop it off the next day or two days later, but other times it just gets lost, and it's harder to get a refund from the seller because it says delivered. So e.g. eBay will side with the seller in a dispute.
  • zippergz 1y ago
    I've definitely gotten the sense that the flip side of that is happening - in many cases, items get marked as "shipped" when the label is printed, but often shippers don't hand the package off to the carrier until days later. I can't prove it but sometimes it very much feels like sellers, especially on platforms like etsy and ebay, make sure to print the label immediately and mark the item as shipped so they can claim fast shipping, but then are in no hurry whatsoever to actually get the package in transit. Maybe this is not nefarious and is just a side effect of the way the systems work together, but as a customer it's pretty annoying. For me it's less about how long it takes to get the item and more about feeling mislead on whether it is actually on its way or not.
    • nobody9999 1y ago
      >I've definitely gotten the sense that the flip side of that is happening - in many cases, items get marked as "shipped" when the label is printed, but often shippers don't hand the package off to the carrier until days later. AIUI, Amazon's policy is that credit cards don't get charged until the order ships. As such, some shadier folks will create the label long before the item is actually shipped. However, since the label has been created, the order is now marked as "shipped" and the credit card is charged even though nothing has been packed, let alone actually shipped.
    • Symbiote 1y ago
      Delivery companies in Europe have an initial status of something like "notification of package received", which should be followed by "package received from sender". I assume they do this to avoid complaints of slow delivery when the sender takes a whole to post the item.
    • crazygringo 1y ago
      That definitely happens, I don't think it's intentionally nefarious though. They tend to package and label orders as they come in, that's the only thing you can do to be efficient -- you can't let them build up. But then they only drop off (or get pickup) 2x/week, e.g. Tues and Fri. Which might be fine if that's what their shipping times indicate. But then the buyer gets confused because they assume it was mailed immediately, which it wasn't. But there's no way for a seller to print shipping labels from eBay in advance without eBay marking it as "shipped". It gets even more confusing because with bulk pickups or dropoffs, they often don't even get scanned when the carrier receives them. They won't show as actually in the carrier's hands until they reach the first major hub, which can easily be a day or even two later.
• kube-system 1y ago
  No, these scans happen in sorting facilities in automated machinery far before delivery. A human still delivers the mail.
  • duxup 1y ago
    >A human still delivers the mail. Yes I'm aware of that ;)
• JohnFen 1y ago
  > My post office for a good year was horrendous about delivering me my neighbor's mail. Mine still is. Misdelivered mail has done more to help me get to know my neighbors than anything else. It's pretty community-building.
  • wombatpm 1y ago
    My house number is 110. My neighbor at 116 bought a condo in Florida. Why do I know this? Because for 3 months I was getting all of his HOA correspondence. People make mistakes. Technology just allows people to make mistakes in seconds that would have taken minutes before.
    • sitzkrieg 1y ago
      yea but getting your address wrong in a major purchase is a dipshit move.
      • saghm 1y ago
        I wouldn't be shocked if they just had messy handwriting, and someone misread their "0" for a "6". It doesn't seem like it would be _that_ hard to accidentally close the loop a little low.
• pwg 1y ago
  > it's more of a hassle for me as my wife says "this should have arrived today" Same here (minus the "stolen" part). Wife overlooks the disclaimer on the page saying "delivery soon" and assumes that today's photos should be of today's deliveries. Continually pointing that fact out has not (yet) dissuaded her from this belief of "today's photos equal today's deliveries"
  • Spooky23 1y ago
    In her defense, it used to mean that everywhere. That picture means that the mail was sorted and placed for the carrier to deliver. The gotcha is that the staff shortfalls and prioritization of Amazon and parcels means your route based mail may not be serviced correctly.
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• saghm 1y ago
  In my anecdotal experience, changes in how much of your neighbor's mail you get often ends up being due to a change to which individual carrier is delivering to your address. For over a decade growing up, we got our mail delivered by an exceptionally chill guy named Bill. As kids we'd get excited and run up when we saw him because he'd chat and joke with us, and he knew my parents by name and would chat with them often as well. We never got anyone else's mail from him, and no one ever got ours. Eventually, Bill got transferred to a different route, and the new person who delivered on our street would inexplicably stuff as many letters as he could into the insides of magazines going to a given address, and there was a high rate of getting our neighbors' mail inside of our magazines. When this first happened, my mother tried bring this up with him nicely, but nothing ended up changing. I can't remember how receptive he was to the feedback, but my mother didn't try to bring it up with him more than maybe once after that because she could tell it was a lost cause, and whenever it happened she'd roll her eyes and say that Bill would never make a mistake like that. After college, I lived in an apartment for over four years where apparently the woman who had previously been in it switched to a different apartment in the same building (which was quite large, so I don't think I ever met her). In the first couple of weeks, we for a couple pieces of mail of hers that we'd leave with the doorman, and he'd give it to her (or maybe have it put in her mailbox instead), and this stopped happening after that for a while. A few years later, we started getting some mail for her again out of nowhere, and the first time I brought it down to the doorman, he mentioned that the person delivering mail to our building had switched recently. I have no clue why someone who hadn't delivered to the building before would be inconsistently delivering mail to her old address, but it basically never stopped happening during my remaining time there.
  • duxup 1y ago
    I suspect the same. Over the years I've gotten waves of bad and good and honestly the bad just seemed like someone not paying attention to how much of the pile they grabbed ;) If I got a bad delivery I got a lot of other people's mail, like someone not paying attention and just grabbing multiple addresses at once and tossing them in my mailbox.
• PopePompus 1y ago
  Hand-delivering mail intended for my neighbors, that was mistakenly placed in my mailbox, is how I met most of my neighbors. The sloppy USPS is an important part of my social life.
  • UncleOxidant 1y ago
    USPS has a few times delivered items to our address which were intended for the recipient 1 block north with the same street number. It's how I've started to wonder if they might be Russian mafia all over there in their track suits.
    • voidUpdate 1y ago
      For some reason, delivery drivers have huge problems finding my block of flats, and will often deliver stuff to the house with my flat number across the road, despite me putting in the delivery instructions that I live in the block of flats, not the house. I've occasionally had to go over and "steal" my own package back from outside their door and hope nobody calls the police on me