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If you were a chicken behind the veil of ignorance choosing your fate, would you choose immediate death (male) or a short, difficult, confined life (female)? T
by setgree 1y ago
If you were a chicken behind the veil of ignorance choosing your fate, would you choose immediate death (male) or a short, difficult, confined life (female)?
To many advocates, it’s self-evident that the hen’s life is better than immediate death. This is not obvious to me. It depends on the hen’s quality of life.
- Insanity 1y agoInteresting perspective. Although the “death” can happen in various ways - humane or not humane. But ultimately I can get behind the idea that the immediate death is the better outcome in the big picture..
- michaelmrose 1y agoThey aren't choosing between being male or female they are identifying eggs that are going to develop into males early and removing them. They are thus choosing between ceasing to exist before they are aware of their own existence and living approximately one day and then being ground up alive.
- mitthrowaway2 1y agoYou're discussing a different counterfactual than the post you are replying to.
- foxyv 1y agoI would be happy if we could just ban battery cages to start. I can't think of a more horrible fate aside from being a foie gras goose or a veal calf.
- leptons 1y agoMost foie gras is from ducks these days.
- nartho 1y agoFoie-gras geese and ducks are free range, at least in France. That's a different story when you buy the cheap eastern european ones.
- GeoAtreides 1y agois the forced feeding until their liver balloons with fat free range too or...
- nartho 1y agoSo you think that free range geese who are forced fed have a worth living condition that the vast majority of animals raised for their meat ?
- GeoAtreides 1y agoI think force feeding geese is so horrible it _almost_ doesn't matter if they're free range or not. It's like saying a torture victim that gets water boarded daily at least gets 10 minutes of exercise every day.