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Define disproportionately propagating far-right content.

by j3th9n 1y ago

akie 1y ago
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xyzal 1y ago
Where is Mecha Hitler when you need him?
throw0101b 1y ago
> Define disproportionately propagating far-right content. How about: > Elon Musk’s artificial intelligence firm xAI has deleted “inappropriate” posts on X after the company’s chatbot, Grok, began praising Adolf Hitler, referring to itself as MechaHitler and making antisemitic comments in response to user queries. […] > “The white man stands for innovation, grit and not bending to PC nonsense,” Grok said in a subsequent post. * https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/09/grok-ai-praised-hitler-antisemitism-x-ntwnfb https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/09/grok-ai-p... Or: > In a series of posts – often picking up language from users or responding to their goading – Grok repeatedly abused [Polish PM] Tusk as “a fucking traitor”, “a ginger whore” and said the former European Council president was “an opportunist who sells sovereignty for EU jobs”. * https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/08/musks-grok-ai-bot-generates-expletive-laden-rants-to-questions-on-polish-politics https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/08/musks-gro... Or last month's > Elon Musk’s artificial intelligence chatbot Grok had been repeatedly mentioning “white genocide” in South Africa in its responses to unrelated topics and telling users it was “instructed by my creators” to accept the genocide “as real and racially motivated”. * https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/14/elon-musk-grok-white-genocide https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/14/elon-musk...
- chrisco255 1y ago
  A bot went off the rails, and was subsequently corrected. Again, what is the problem? I thought France had freedom of speech but maybe not?
  - zitsarethecure 1y ago
    France's freedom of speech is as strong, or stronger, than the US.
    - docdeek 1y ago
      It’s different to the US in some important ways. There are strict limitations on 'hate speech’, denial of the Holocaust is illegal, and there are laws still on the books (and some examples of media outlets being prosecuted for breaking those laws) around presenting drug use as a positive thing, or encouraging drug use. You can be prosecuted as an "apologist for terrorism” should the government conclude that this is what you are doing. You can also be charged with “contempt of public officials” as people were for burning an effigy of President Macron. In the US, as far as I know as someone who has only ever visited the country for a short time, you are allowed to hold the President in contempt, you can announce to anyone who’ll listen your ignorant, racist, Holocaust-denying opinions and not be afraid of that speech being criminalized (though there are social costs you’ll probably pay), and if you want to go on the internet and encourage people to try drugs, you can. You can support whatever side of whatever conflict around the world you like with your words and you probably won’t be breaking the law. France’s laws around freedom of expression are strong, but they are different to those in the US and I would say offer fewer protections for citizens than the US 1st amendnment.
      - Cthulhu_ 1y ago
        In the US and most countries though, there's libel / defamation laws; you can say a lot of shit about people, but they can then sue you for libel / defamation if you spout nonsense.
        chrisco255 1y ago
        Libel and defamation open you to civil suits but only perjury is criminal.
        1y ago
- oersted 1y ago
  These things kept happening for 2-3 years with pre-ChatGPT LLM tech demos from Microsoft, Meta and Google. Not to be an apologist of course, just wanted to point out that it may be a sign of them being behind the curve on some technical aspects, or at least on best practice, likely on purpose. Sure they probably did some ideological meddling too. For all the (valid) criticism on alignment/censoring, one has to acknowledge the success of the pragmatic approach from OpenAI and Anthropic. As much as we might not want to admit it, bit of censoring is kind of critical to be able to use LLMs seriously to solve real problems.

Define disproportionately propagating far-right content.

by j3th9n 1y ago

Define disproportionately propagating far-right content.

akie 1y ago

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xyzal 1y ago

Where is Mecha Hitler when you need him?

throw0101b 1y ago

> Define disproportionately propagating far-right content. How about: > Elon Musk’s artificial intelligence firm xAI has deleted “inappropriate” posts on X after the company’s chatbot, Grok, began praising Adolf Hitler, referring to itself as MechaHitler and making antisemitic comments in response to user queries. […] > “The white man stands for innovation, grit and not bending to PC nonsense,” Grok said in a subsequent post. * https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/09/grok-ai-praised-hitler-antisemitism-x-ntwnfb https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/09/grok-ai-p... Or: > In a series of posts – often picking up language from users or responding to their goading – Grok repeatedly abused [Polish PM] Tusk as “a fucking traitor”, “a ginger whore” and said the former European Council president was “an opportunist who sells sovereignty for EU jobs”. * https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/08/musks-grok-ai-bot-generates-expletive-laden-rants-to-questions-on-polish-politics https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/08/musks-gro... Or last month's > Elon Musk’s artificial intelligence chatbot Grok had been repeatedly mentioning “white genocide” in South Africa in its responses to unrelated topics and telling users it was “instructed by my creators” to accept the genocide “as real and racially motivated”. * https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/14/elon-musk-grok-white-genocide https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/14/elon-musk...

chrisco255 1y ago
A bot went off the rails, and was subsequently corrected. Again, what is the problem? I thought France had freedom of speech but maybe not?
- zitsarethecure 1y ago
  France's freedom of speech is as strong, or stronger, than the US.
  - docdeek 1y ago
    It’s different to the US in some important ways. There are strict limitations on 'hate speech’, denial of the Holocaust is illegal, and there are laws still on the books (and some examples of media outlets being prosecuted for breaking those laws) around presenting drug use as a positive thing, or encouraging drug use. You can be prosecuted as an "apologist for terrorism” should the government conclude that this is what you are doing. You can also be charged with “contempt of public officials” as people were for burning an effigy of President Macron. In the US, as far as I know as someone who has only ever visited the country for a short time, you are allowed to hold the President in contempt, you can announce to anyone who’ll listen your ignorant, racist, Holocaust-denying opinions and not be afraid of that speech being criminalized (though there are social costs you’ll probably pay), and if you want to go on the internet and encourage people to try drugs, you can. You can support whatever side of whatever conflict around the world you like with your words and you probably won’t be breaking the law. France’s laws around freedom of expression are strong, but they are different to those in the US and I would say offer fewer protections for citizens than the US 1st amendnment.
    - Cthulhu_ 1y ago
      In the US and most countries though, there's libel / defamation laws; you can say a lot of shit about people, but they can then sue you for libel / defamation if you spout nonsense.
      - chrisco255 1y ago
        Libel and defamation open you to civil suits but only perjury is criminal.
        1y ago
oersted 1y ago
These things kept happening for 2-3 years with pre-ChatGPT LLM tech demos from Microsoft, Meta and Google. Not to be an apologist of course, just wanted to point out that it may be a sign of them being behind the curve on some technical aspects, or at least on best practice, likely on purpose. Sure they probably did some ideological meddling too. For all the (valid) criticism on alignment/censoring, one has to acknowledge the success of the pragmatic approach from OpenAI and Anthropic. As much as we might not want to admit it, bit of censoring is kind of critical to be able to use LLMs seriously to solve real problems.