One of the issues here, is trust. If I write anything, and put my name as the author, I'm 100% lying if I am just copy pasting text. This holds true 10 years

One of the issues here, is trust. If I write anything, and put my name as the author, I'm 100% lying if I am just copy pasting text. This holds true 10 years ago, if I copied in any text without attribution. A novel, a book, a grant app, a paper, whatever. Just because you're now copying large swaths of text from an LLM, doesn't make it better than copying from a person, eg plagiarism. And if you took a person's text 10 years ago, and modified a few words out of thousands, yes, that'd be called plagiarism too. (No, a spell checker isn't that. It's correcting your word for the same word. If you think spellcheckers are the same as whole paragraph insertion, please check your ethics meter, it's broken.) If the work isn't yours, you need to say so. Otherwise you're being dishonest. If people get upset at the notion of disclosing, that feels like guilty behaviour. Otherwise, why not disclose? Now, taking a step back? We're in a period of transition. I agree that vast imbalances are being created here. This is the true problem. For example, an application process could state "LLM applications are fine", or not. Instead? The current is "no" without clearly saying so, for obvious reasons (it's copying work you didn't write, as your own ... plagiarism), but any such "no" without a high incident of detection and punishment, is worse than anything. The 6 applications seems like a cop out, although it is logical. It should also be coupled with a "OK you win, use LLMs" statement too. On another note, soon there will be two types of people, and only one of which I will engage in thoughtful email/text communication with. Those who use LLMs, and people worth talking too. Of what value is any meaningful conversation, if the other person's response is an LLM paste? Might as well just talk to chatgpt instead. (note, I'm talking about friendly debate among friends or colleagues. Seeking their opinion or vice versa.)