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>>Muslims living in the Middle East aren't antiSemitic (unless they hate themselves). The word "antisemite" was created by an antisemite for just that specific

by berntb 14y ago

>>Muslims living in the Middle East aren't antiSemitic (unless they hate themselves). The word "antisemite" was created by an antisemite for just that specific meaning. See "gay" and other words that change their meaning. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Etymology_and_usage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Etymology_and_usag... This discuss the prevalent antisemitism in the Arab world (check the rest of the Muslim world on Wikipedia yourself) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Arab_world http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Arab_world Edit: I have seen others dismiss racist hatred with an attempt at linguistics, but happily seldom on HN. Where do you guys pick up this kind of "argument"? Seriously, checking your links you're obviously smarter and more educated than most people I've ever met.

lutusp 14y ago
> Edit: I have seen others dismiss racist hatred with an attempt at linguistics Why is that surprising? Racist hatred often arises from ignorance and confusion, and there's plenty of ignorance and confusion about the meaning of words. Examining word usage is an obvious starting point. > Where do you guys pick up this kind of "argument"? It's called fighting fire with fire. Racists tend to be ignorant of the group they hate, and they also tend to ignorant of the various meanings of words. And "antiSemite" is a classic example of a word that's tortured until it means anything.
- berntb 14y ago
  I seriously expected you to say something like "Ah, I hadn't checked the dictionaries and repeated what I read in article X". I wanted to find out what X was. :-( >>Examining word usage is an obvious starting point. >>It's called fighting fire with fire So you are consciously lyi... redefining the dictionary and do logical jumps through hoops, to get out the opinion you consider "good". :-( >>Racists So, all means are OK that attacks the racist enemy in your own social group? Even trying to define away racism in other groups -- presumably so there won't be a negative view of them because of their racism? If that excusing of racism in your attacks on racism wasn't such pathetic Orwellian double-think, it would be funny. Anyway, thanks for the honesty -- if it really was honesty and not another trick. (My internal monologue right now is: "Grumble, must shower; I feel dirty when people sell out their intellectual integrity. Seriously, the left wing extremists are as crazy as the US right wing extremists.")

by berntb 14y ago

lutusp 14y ago

> Edit: I have seen others dismiss racist hatred with an attempt at linguistics Why is that surprising? Racist hatred often arises from ignorance and confusion, and there's plenty of ignorance and confusion about the meaning of words. Examining word usage is an obvious starting point. > Where do you guys pick up this kind of "argument"? It's called fighting fire with fire. Racists tend to be ignorant of the group they hate, and they also tend to ignorant of the various meanings of words. And "antiSemite" is a classic example of a word that's tortured until it means anything.

berntb 14y ago
I seriously expected you to say something like "Ah, I hadn't checked the dictionaries and repeated what I read in article X". I wanted to find out what X was. :-( >>Examining word usage is an obvious starting point. >>It's called fighting fire with fire So you are consciously lyi... redefining the dictionary and do logical jumps through hoops, to get out the opinion you consider "good". :-( >>Racists So, all means are OK that attacks the racist enemy in your own social group? Even trying to define away racism in other groups -- presumably so there won't be a negative view of them because of their racism? If that excusing of racism in your attacks on racism wasn't such pathetic Orwellian double-think, it would be funny. Anyway, thanks for the honesty -- if it really was honesty and not another trick. (My internal monologue right now is: "Grumble, must shower; I feel dirty when people sell out their intellectual integrity. Seriously, the left wing extremists are as crazy as the US right wing extremists.")