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Australia Wants to See Your Papers Before You Press Play

intothemild 1y ago
As a parent I really like googles family controls, all of it. Except ONE thing.. I cannot block or limit YouTube Shorts. Whenever my daughter watches regular YouTube there's a good chance she might watch something creative or educational or something that ends up with her suddenly making something out of paper, or drawing or anything physical. Learning about something amazing and getting excited. YouTube Shorts is just AI slop, and horrible content I wish never existed.
- d0100 1y ago
  > YouTube Shorts is just AI slop, and horrible content I wish never existed. This is only what you watch, for me I get short form of the same content I watch on youtube video (music, games and podcasts)
  - intothemild 1y ago
    I'm talking about my kid here. I think you're missing the point of what I'm talking about here. YouTube is ok for the most part, where as shorts is mostly not ok, and there's no way to turn it off.
  - apwell23 1y ago
    kid reels might be AI slop
- OneDeuxTriSeiGo 1y ago
  In general there needs to be a way to disable Youtube Shorts. It's a massive attention hole that preys on people in a very addiction forming way. Doubly so for people with ADHD, etc.
  - senectus1 1y ago
    you can turn it off on a PC browser with an extension. but yeah on a device or on the network no :-( I have the same complaint
    - Clamchop 1y ago
      If you're using Android, then you have access to Firefox and its library of extensions.
    - OneDeuxTriSeiGo 1y ago
      Yep you can use extensions but tbh they are of varying quality and youtube changes their site so much in an attempt to fight adblockers that most youtube extensions tend to be really brittle.
- j1elo 1y ago
  You could access via web browser and try this uBlock Origin list [1], props to this commenter [2] who helpfully posted it a while ago. Or if you must use a native app, on Android use a patched version of YT that supresses shorts from the view (to be honest the user agency it still allows, is for me worth enough to prefer Android over its competition) [1]: https://github.com/Harren06/ublock-yt-shorts https://github.com/Harren06/ublock-yt-shorts [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43848253 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43848253
- phyzix5761 1y ago
  I use brave browser and block anything related to shorts. The sound still plays in the background but the videos don't play which makes it unenjoyable. Helped me give up shorts.
- osn9363739 1y ago
  For phones. If you use the YT app (Or logged in I think). If you disable your watch history it removes the shorts. But I wish there was another way. I use Unhook browser plugin on my computer browser.
robertwt7 1y ago
I am Australian, the state that we have become is just sad. The fact that this is brought under the disguise of "child protection" is ridiculous and I never would have imagine a future in my own country where I have to submit my ID to access anything online. They will never achieve anything with this because everyone will just use VPN. It's costing taxpayer's money without any useful outcome. The level of incompetence displayed by this government is astonishing.
- RachelF 1y ago
  Australia is slowly copying China. They will move on banning VPNs in a year of two. It may be government incompetence, but it might also be a plan to identify everyone online.
  - tempera 1y ago
    The same will come to Europe if citizens don't push back. There was the push to intercept all chat traffic with ChatControl legislation. And with Digital ID will come to identify all users on net. Luckily the WHO takeover got push back in USA and many other states, don't know for Australia
- naruhodo 1y ago
  As an Australian, do you remember: * The Labor government's failed 2010 internet filter policy, [1] "Those who claim the government's approach is akin to the sort of political censorship practiced by authoritarian regimes are simply misleading the Australian public." * The Liberal government's passed 2015 mandatory metadata retention laws, [2] "Critics say Australia’s data retention scheme is mass surveillance, and metadata is used to track where people go." because it doesn't seem like you do. I could also point to the UK's full-take surveillance apparatus, or the US, from around about the same time-frame. This is a long term project. [1] https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/internet-filter-is-not-censorship/cl1y7kbgv https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/internet-filter-is-not-c... [2] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-17/metadata-retention-privacy-phone-will-ockenden/6694152 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-17/metadata-retention-pr...
Canada 1y ago
We need to simply take away children's access to the unfiltered internet, and we need this to be done by local device parental controls - children get iPhones that allow only a whitelisted part of the internet. We adults need to enforce it and make it a social norm, like you don't buy cigarettes for kids. Then this mass surveillance "for the children" concept can go away, and also the children really shouldn't be exposed to certain information, which we all know it when we see it, until they are old enough.
- jackvalentine 1y ago
  > We adults need to enforce it and make it a social norm, like you don't buy cigarettes for kids. We could do it using some kind of law!
patchtopic 1y ago
As an Australian I am disgusted by this backwards, authoritarian, ant-privacy approach.
M95D 1y ago
I don't live in Australia, but just to be safe, I saved everything I liked. And not just that stuff. Everything!

As a parent I really like googles family controls, all of it. Except ONE thing.. I cannot block or limit YouTube Shorts. Whenever my daughter watches regular YouTube there's a good chance she might watch something creative or educational or something that ends up with her suddenly making something out of paper, or drawing or anything physical. Learning about something amazing and getting excited. YouTube Shorts is just AI slop, and horrible content I wish never existed.

d0100 1y ago
> YouTube Shorts is just AI slop, and horrible content I wish never existed. This is only what you watch, for me I get short form of the same content I watch on youtube video (music, games and podcasts)
- intothemild 1y ago
  I'm talking about my kid here. I think you're missing the point of what I'm talking about here. YouTube is ok for the most part, where as shorts is mostly not ok, and there's no way to turn it off.
- apwell23 1y ago
  kid reels might be AI slop
OneDeuxTriSeiGo 1y ago
In general there needs to be a way to disable Youtube Shorts. It's a massive attention hole that preys on people in a very addiction forming way. Doubly so for people with ADHD, etc.
- senectus1 1y ago
  you can turn it off on a PC browser with an extension. but yeah on a device or on the network no :-( I have the same complaint
  - Clamchop 1y ago
    If you're using Android, then you have access to Firefox and its library of extensions.
  - OneDeuxTriSeiGo 1y ago
    Yep you can use extensions but tbh they are of varying quality and youtube changes their site so much in an attempt to fight adblockers that most youtube extensions tend to be really brittle.
j1elo 1y ago
You could access via web browser and try this uBlock Origin list [1], props to this commenter [2] who helpfully posted it a while ago. Or if you must use a native app, on Android use a patched version of YT that supresses shorts from the view (to be honest the user agency it still allows, is for me worth enough to prefer Android over its competition) [1]: https://github.com/Harren06/ublock-yt-shorts https://github.com/Harren06/ublock-yt-shorts [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43848253 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43848253
phyzix5761 1y ago
I use brave browser and block anything related to shorts. The sound still plays in the background but the videos don't play which makes it unenjoyable. Helped me give up shorts.
osn9363739 1y ago
For phones. If you use the YT app (Or logged in I think). If you disable your watch history it removes the shorts. But I wish there was another way. I use Unhook browser plugin on my computer browser.

robertwt7 1y ago

I am Australian, the state that we have become is just sad. The fact that this is brought under the disguise of "child protection" is ridiculous and I never would have imagine a future in my own country where I have to submit my ID to access anything online. They will never achieve anything with this because everyone will just use VPN. It's costing taxpayer's money without any useful outcome. The level of incompetence displayed by this government is astonishing.

RachelF 1y ago
Australia is slowly copying China. They will move on banning VPNs in a year of two. It may be government incompetence, but it might also be a plan to identify everyone online.
- tempera 1y ago
  The same will come to Europe if citizens don't push back. There was the push to intercept all chat traffic with ChatControl legislation. And with Digital ID will come to identify all users on net. Luckily the WHO takeover got push back in USA and many other states, don't know for Australia
naruhodo 1y ago
As an Australian, do you remember: * The Labor government's failed 2010 internet filter policy, [1] "Those who claim the government's approach is akin to the sort of political censorship practiced by authoritarian regimes are simply misleading the Australian public." * The Liberal government's passed 2015 mandatory metadata retention laws, [2] "Critics say Australia’s data retention scheme is mass surveillance, and metadata is used to track where people go." because it doesn't seem like you do. I could also point to the UK's full-take surveillance apparatus, or the US, from around about the same time-frame. This is a long term project. [1] https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/internet-filter-is-not-censorship/cl1y7kbgv https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/internet-filter-is-not-c... [2] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-17/metadata-retention-privacy-phone-will-ockenden/6694152 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-17/metadata-retention-pr...

Canada 1y ago

We need to simply take away children's access to the unfiltered internet, and we need this to be done by local device parental controls - children get iPhones that allow only a whitelisted part of the internet. We adults need to enforce it and make it a social norm, like you don't buy cigarettes for kids. Then this mass surveillance "for the children" concept can go away, and also the children really shouldn't be exposed to certain information, which we all know it when we see it, until they are old enough.

jackvalentine 1y ago
> We adults need to enforce it and make it a social norm, like you don't buy cigarettes for kids. We could do it using some kind of law!

patchtopic 1y ago

As an Australian I am disgusted by this backwards, authoritarian, ant-privacy approach.

M95D 1y ago

I don't live in Australia, but just to be safe, I saved everything I liked. And not just that stuff. Everything!