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You see I even disagree with that. People don't accidentally discover the Guardian, NY Times, Washington Post, Le Monde, Le Figaro via Google, their muscle memo

You see I even disagree with that. People don't accidentally discover the Guardian, NY Times, Washington Post, Le Monde, Le Figaro via Google, their muscle memory is trained to these publications because that's where they go to get their opinions and worldview validated. Of course they can get that from ChatGPT too, but it hits different when you realise ChatGPT validates everything you say anyway.

sofixa 1y ago
> You see I even disagree with that. People don't accidentally discover the Guardian, NY Times, Washington Post, Le Monde, Le Figaro via Google, their muscle memory is trained to these publications because that's where they go to get their opinions and worldview validated That's for daily news reading. If you search for news (like what happened with the Spanish/Iberian grid), you'd use Google. And you shouldn't use ChatGPT because it wastes a ton of resources to just hallucinate anyways, whereas a Google search gets you the direct links to the sources.
- whywhywhywhy 1y ago
  > And you shouldn't use ChatGPT because it wastes a ton of resources to just hallucinate anyways A lot of people are asking "@grok is this true?" under news on Twitter every day. So a not insignificant number of people are going through AI for this sort of thing.
sgc 1y ago
It has been many years, but there was a time when I was young, and I did not know about any of those publications other than the NYT (from seeing it on newstands). I did discover almost every other one via google, when looking for variety in my sources of news. No matter how famous something is, for every individual, there is a first point of contact. The web has been the great filter for the last couple of decades until now, and it is extremely common to discover even main stream things that way.
- ta12653421 1y ago
  So, you didnt discover any of these large media companies during your study program? There are quite some international Flagships like NYT
  - sgc 1y ago
    Some of us don't wait for school to introduce us to things, but seek them out because we are interested. And although I saw a couple of these in our libraries, my uni studies had nothing to do with newspapers (as most fields of study don't). Even some I had seen walking by, I never looked at seriously until I found them via a specific google search that showed to me they might be of interest.

sofixa 1y ago

> You see I even disagree with that. People don't accidentally discover the Guardian, NY Times, Washington Post, Le Monde, Le Figaro via Google, their muscle memory is trained to these publications because that's where they go to get their opinions and worldview validated That's for daily news reading. If you search for news (like what happened with the Spanish/Iberian grid), you'd use Google. And you shouldn't use ChatGPT because it wastes a ton of resources to just hallucinate anyways, whereas a Google search gets you the direct links to the sources.

whywhywhywhy 1y ago
> And you shouldn't use ChatGPT because it wastes a ton of resources to just hallucinate anyways A lot of people are asking "@grok is this true?" under news on Twitter every day. So a not insignificant number of people are going through AI for this sort of thing.

sgc 1y ago

It has been many years, but there was a time when I was young, and I did not know about any of those publications other than the NYT (from seeing it on newstands). I did discover almost every other one via google, when looking for variety in my sources of news. No matter how famous something is, for every individual, there is a first point of contact. The web has been the great filter for the last couple of decades until now, and it is extremely common to discover even main stream things that way.

ta12653421 1y ago
So, you didnt discover any of these large media companies during your study program? There are quite some international Flagships like NYT
- sgc 1y ago
  Some of us don't wait for school to introduce us to things, but seek them out because we are interested. And although I saw a couple of these in our libraries, my uni studies had nothing to do with newspapers (as most fields of study don't). Even some I had seen walking by, I never looked at seriously until I found them via a specific google search that showed to me they might be of interest.