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Hmm? What'd they do to it?

sneak 1y ago
They require a Microsoft account. There was a period of time where you could port over your Mojang account, but I and many other people did not, because I didn't want a Microsoft account or to have to agree to the Microsoft Terms of Service, a new legal contract which didn't exist at the time I paid for Minecraft. It's a classic bait and switch. Then, the account migration window closed, and Mojang accounts stopped working. Now I and thousands of others can't play the game we paid good money for. Fuck Notch and Microsoft both.
- Novosell 1y ago
  Oh shit. It's been more than a decade since I played Minecraft but sounds like I, too, have lost my account then.
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- tialaramex 1y ago
  > There was a period of time where you could port over your Mojang account, To be fair that was a fairly long period IIRC. And they really put some work into that last migration once they announced everything else is going away. Minecraft has all these legacy systems because nobody knew it would be huge, so during the Alpha and early Beta periods it's just whatever payment system they've cobbled together this week. I'm still not sure if the scattered piles of emails, account names, IDs, passwords, receipt codes or other detritus eventually persuaded them I'm tialaramex or whether the fact I'm just very obviously tialaramex (it's gestured at in my email address, it's my HN account handle, if I ever tweeted, which I do not, I would be @tialaramex, it's everywhere) prevailed and so that's why I got my tialaramex Minecraft persona connected to whatever nonsense Microsoft have. But either way, once we reached the "Now a human is needed" step they were as helpful as you could ask given how cheap Minecraft was back when I bought it. I think if you lost all contact for so long you weren't aware there was a migration it's not unreasonable to think if you suddenly regain interest you should pay for Minecraft. The current Minecraft is very different from what you last saw, albeit not in its essentials.
  - sneak 1y ago
    You are missing the point. I was well aware of it. I don’t want a Microsoft account. I don’t do business with Microsoft. Microsoft demanded that I agree to a new contract, the Microsoft Terms of Service, to which I do not and will not agree, to continue to use the game I already paid for. This is called a bait-and-switch. I paid money, got the product, used the product, then they altered the deal, Vader style. Sign this new contract or you lose your game. It’s bullshit any which way you slice it. Arguably it’s Mojang’s fault for selling to such a shitty acquirer and betraying their customers, not that we need any more reasons to understand what a total piece of trash Notch is.
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    - mcv 1y ago
      It's Java. Wouldn't it be possible to decompile it and just remove the account checking? Maybe mod it out? There are mods that change the game dramatically, so why not this?
      - sneak 1y ago
        Yes, it’s more than possible to crack the game. All of the normal servers however will refuse to talk to you without you presenting valid login tokens from Microsoft, so you’re limited to local singleplayer.
        immibis 1y ago
        And LAN play in "offline mode". There are some Internet servers in offline mode with aftermarket authentication systems bolted on, but mostly only 13yo pirates play them. Did you think Microsoft was obligated to maintain your access to servers though? Even "stop killing games" doesn't ask that much.
        mcv 1y ago
        But at least you can play the game. And maybe play with people with a similarly cracked version. That sounds entirely reasonable to me, if you don't want to have anything to do with Microsoft.
- hungmung 1y ago
  Yep, and when you get your Microsoft account, you have to deal with their fucked up login system. Many a child's tear (also adult's tears) has flown over their jank. Mojang never locked anyone out for 30 days when they reset a password. Oh and they routinely give you other people's custom skins.
  - bstsb 1y ago
    > Oh and they routinely give you other people's custom skins. are you playing multiplayer on the Bedrock version? you just have to toggle a setting locally, or other player's skins will show up as a randomly preselected skin. it's called something like "Enable untrusted skins" or similar.
    - hungmung 1y ago
      No, Java. I'll go through the settings again and doublecheck but sometimes the skin will change and it won't accept you changing it back for weeks.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 1y ago
  There were also many stories (myself included) where Microsoft indifference could not port your account, even if you did it within the window. Sheer malfeasance that they could not just email a new code to everyone who had purchased the “lifetime” license.
- kjkjadksj 1y ago
  This happened to me as well. I just opted to pirate the game. I figure I am allowed to since I have a lifetime license since alpha, just m$ dropped the ball porting my account.
- mcv 1y ago
  I think companies should be required to repay the original purchase price when they pull shit like that. I did migrate, though with extreme reluctance, and my son's Minecraft account somehow ended up in my wife's Microsoft account (she'd had a Hotmail account since forever, he had no MS account).
- hammyhavoc 1y ago
  Players had from October 2020 to December 2023, and emails were sent alerting customers of this. That's years more notice than the likes of others give, e.g., Twilio giving 2 months to announce the removal of their free SendGrid plan. It's a game. If a professional SaaS provider gives two months then more than three years to migrate a game account is actually quite amazing. If customers didn't want to migrate or just couldn't be bothered then that's on them. The game is cheap enough if you want to play it that badly. Entitled. Now do Meta killing Facebook Live video storage with a month's notice to download a decade's video per Facebook Page, for which only the page owner could do.
ARob109 1y ago
That and before The Minecraft Movie came out, you could play multiplayer LAN from Xbox to PC cross platform without an XBox Live subscription. Once the movie was released and they updated the game to add movie related content, this feature stopped working. Now to play multiplayer cross platform LAN, you have to pay for M$ servers you don’t use. You couldn’t even load your world locally on the XBox if it was marked for multiplayer unless you had an Xbox Live account, meaning you got locked out of your world. Fortunately you can edit the world setting to remove the multiplayer option to recover, but this was not documented at the time encountered.

They require a Microsoft account. There was a period of time where you could port over your Mojang account, but I and many other people did not, because I didn't want a Microsoft account or to have to agree to the Microsoft Terms of Service, a new legal contract which didn't exist at the time I paid for Minecraft. It's a classic bait and switch. Then, the account migration window closed, and Mojang accounts stopped working. Now I and thousands of others can't play the game we paid good money for. Fuck Notch and Microsoft both.

Novosell 1y ago
Oh shit. It's been more than a decade since I played Minecraft but sounds like I, too, have lost my account then.
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tialaramex 1y ago
> There was a period of time where you could port over your Mojang account, To be fair that was a fairly long period IIRC. And they really put some work into that last migration once they announced everything else is going away. Minecraft has all these legacy systems because nobody knew it would be huge, so during the Alpha and early Beta periods it's just whatever payment system they've cobbled together this week. I'm still not sure if the scattered piles of emails, account names, IDs, passwords, receipt codes or other detritus eventually persuaded them I'm tialaramex or whether the fact I'm just very obviously tialaramex (it's gestured at in my email address, it's my HN account handle, if I ever tweeted, which I do not, I would be @tialaramex, it's everywhere) prevailed and so that's why I got my tialaramex Minecraft persona connected to whatever nonsense Microsoft have. But either way, once we reached the "Now a human is needed" step they were as helpful as you could ask given how cheap Minecraft was back when I bought it. I think if you lost all contact for so long you weren't aware there was a migration it's not unreasonable to think if you suddenly regain interest you should pay for Minecraft. The current Minecraft is very different from what you last saw, albeit not in its essentials.
- sneak 1y ago
  You are missing the point. I was well aware of it. I don’t want a Microsoft account. I don’t do business with Microsoft. Microsoft demanded that I agree to a new contract, the Microsoft Terms of Service, to which I do not and will not agree, to continue to use the game I already paid for. This is called a bait-and-switch. I paid money, got the product, used the product, then they altered the deal, Vader style. Sign this new contract or you lose your game. It’s bullshit any which way you slice it. Arguably it’s Mojang’s fault for selling to such a shitty acquirer and betraying their customers, not that we need any more reasons to understand what a total piece of trash Notch is.
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  - mcv 1y ago
    It's Java. Wouldn't it be possible to decompile it and just remove the account checking? Maybe mod it out? There are mods that change the game dramatically, so why not this?
    - sneak 1y ago
      Yes, it’s more than possible to crack the game. All of the normal servers however will refuse to talk to you without you presenting valid login tokens from Microsoft, so you’re limited to local singleplayer.
      - immibis 1y ago
        And LAN play in "offline mode". There are some Internet servers in offline mode with aftermarket authentication systems bolted on, but mostly only 13yo pirates play them. Did you think Microsoft was obligated to maintain your access to servers though? Even "stop killing games" doesn't ask that much.
      - mcv 1y ago
        But at least you can play the game. And maybe play with people with a similarly cracked version. That sounds entirely reasonable to me, if you don't want to have anything to do with Microsoft.
hungmung 1y ago
Yep, and when you get your Microsoft account, you have to deal with their fucked up login system. Many a child's tear (also adult's tears) has flown over their jank. Mojang never locked anyone out for 30 days when they reset a password. Oh and they routinely give you other people's custom skins.
- bstsb 1y ago
  > Oh and they routinely give you other people's custom skins. are you playing multiplayer on the Bedrock version? you just have to toggle a setting locally, or other player's skins will show up as a randomly preselected skin. it's called something like "Enable untrusted skins" or similar.
  - hungmung 1y ago
    No, Java. I'll go through the settings again and doublecheck but sometimes the skin will change and it won't accept you changing it back for weeks.
0cf8612b2e1e 1y ago
There were also many stories (myself included) where Microsoft indifference could not port your account, even if you did it within the window. Sheer malfeasance that they could not just email a new code to everyone who had purchased the “lifetime” license.
kjkjadksj 1y ago
This happened to me as well. I just opted to pirate the game. I figure I am allowed to since I have a lifetime license since alpha, just m$ dropped the ball porting my account.
mcv 1y ago
I think companies should be required to repay the original purchase price when they pull shit like that. I did migrate, though with extreme reluctance, and my son's Minecraft account somehow ended up in my wife's Microsoft account (she'd had a Hotmail account since forever, he had no MS account).
hammyhavoc 1y ago
Players had from October 2020 to December 2023, and emails were sent alerting customers of this. That's years more notice than the likes of others give, e.g., Twilio giving 2 months to announce the removal of their free SendGrid plan. It's a game. If a professional SaaS provider gives two months then more than three years to migrate a game account is actually quite amazing. If customers didn't want to migrate or just couldn't be bothered then that's on them. The game is cheap enough if you want to play it that badly. Entitled. Now do Meta killing Facebook Live video storage with a month's notice to download a decade's video per Facebook Page, for which only the page owner could do.

ARob109 1y ago

That and before The Minecraft Movie came out, you could play multiplayer LAN from Xbox to PC cross platform without an XBox Live subscription. Once the movie was released and they updated the game to add movie related content, this feature stopped working. Now to play multiplayer cross platform LAN, you have to pay for M$ servers you don’t use. You couldn’t even load your world locally on the XBox if it was marked for multiplayer unless you had an Xbox Live account, meaning you got locked out of your world. Fortunately you can edit the world setting to remove the multiplayer option to recover, but this was not documented at the time encountered.