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> But try to make protein powder 80% of your protein intake and see how you'll feel in a week. What? I've had >100g of protein from whey protein shakes every d

> But try to make protein powder 80% of your protein intake and see how you'll feel in a week. What? I've had >100g of protein from whey protein shakes every day for months now. I don't know what you're trying to imply.

FredPret 1y ago
Whey protein is definitely among the better options, but I once did what you described, and then switched to eating a large amount of chicken breasts. I definitely feel a bit better, and have a much easier time building muscle. If you run the numbers, you can actually eat a shocking amout of protein (300g+ / day) from lean meat while maintaining a calorie deficit. And if you buy frozen chicken breasts from Costco, I think it’s actually cheaper than whey! That said - you do you, whey has its place in many lifestyles.
- tempnew 1y ago
  I’ve heard you can cut intake by a third if you switch from chicken breast to fish. Not cheap but you can get frozen tilapia cheap and tuna is safe if limited to once or twice a week. Part of the problem with whey is processing and potential contamination, but also dyes and flavorings, which may be why you felt better without it.
  - FredPret 1y ago
    Yeah, plus it adds up to a lot of cacao since I bought the chocolate tubs from Costco. And that’s assuming it contains (only) what the label says. Our caveman ancestors did not eat fillers.
- stef25 1y ago
  > frozen chicken breasts How do you make that taste good though
  - thaumasiotes 1y ago
    You cook them before eating.
  - FredPret 1y ago
    They come pre-brined, so any form of cooking that ends at 165F makes them incredibly juicy and good, even directly from frozen. BBQ is best.
throwsbzhshe 1y ago
I’ve also been consuming 120g daily (about 4 scoops) of whey protein powder for 2.5 months now and feel perfectly fine.
- piyushpr134 1y ago
  protein can shoot up your sugar levels too. Do hba1c tests after a month to make sure they are not
druskacik 1y ago
Okay, I genuinely thought that consuming as much protein powder as you describe would make person feel sick, you surprised me. To each his own. The fact remains, research suggests overdosing on protein supplements has potential health hazards. "According to international consensus, the daily reference intake of protein for the healthy adult population is 0.8 g/kg body weight. However, individuals who engage in physical activity may require more protein, ranging from 1.2 to 2 grams per kilogram of body weight. To fulfill these requirements, many athletes and active individuals opt for whey protein (WP) supplements to increase their protein intake. The appropriate amount of WP intake for individuals depends on their objectives, current level of physical activity, and body composition. Research suggests that a dosage of 20 to 25 g/day of WP provides the desired benefits, while amounts >40 g/day may lead to adverse effects on the body"[0] [0] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10761008/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10761008/
- gruez 1y ago
  Is that from the protein supplements themselves, or from consuming excessive protein in the first place? In other words if you ate the same amount but as steaks/eggs, would you feel the same symptoms?
  - hollerith 1y ago
    40 g of protein per day is only 6.1 oz of chicken tenderloins (raw weight) per day which is very unlikely to cause the effect described in the paper ("hyperfiltration and increased urinary calcium excretion which can, in turn, lead to chronic kidney disease development"). People who eat a lot of protein die sooner than people who eat less, but that is probably because plentiful protein prevents the body from entering a state called "autophagy". Intentionally inducing autophagy for 5 days every other month (by using Valter Longo's protocol) while eating plenty of protein the rest of the time is probably better for most people than a consistently low-protein diet as long as one is avoiding red meat (provided the people can afford the protein which will be the case for almost everyone in the developed world).
- gamblor956 1y ago
Spooky23 1y ago
As with all things it depends on you. In general lots of protein can impact blood sugar. Whey protein without sufficient exercise can cause liver issues, so you shouldn’t go crazy with it unless you’re regularly monitored by a doctor. (Standard blood panels would detect an issue iirc)

FredPret 1y ago

Whey protein is definitely among the better options, but I once did what you described, and then switched to eating a large amount of chicken breasts. I definitely feel a bit better, and have a much easier time building muscle. If you run the numbers, you can actually eat a shocking amout of protein (300g+ / day) from lean meat while maintaining a calorie deficit. And if you buy frozen chicken breasts from Costco, I think it’s actually cheaper than whey! That said - you do you, whey has its place in many lifestyles.

tempnew 1y ago
I’ve heard you can cut intake by a third if you switch from chicken breast to fish. Not cheap but you can get frozen tilapia cheap and tuna is safe if limited to once or twice a week. Part of the problem with whey is processing and potential contamination, but also dyes and flavorings, which may be why you felt better without it.
- FredPret 1y ago
  Yeah, plus it adds up to a lot of cacao since I bought the chocolate tubs from Costco. And that’s assuming it contains (only) what the label says. Our caveman ancestors did not eat fillers.
stef25 1y ago
> frozen chicken breasts How do you make that taste good though
- thaumasiotes 1y ago
  You cook them before eating.
- FredPret 1y ago
  They come pre-brined, so any form of cooking that ends at 165F makes them incredibly juicy and good, even directly from frozen. BBQ is best.

throwsbzhshe 1y ago

I’ve also been consuming 120g daily (about 4 scoops) of whey protein powder for 2.5 months now and feel perfectly fine.

piyushpr134 1y ago
protein can shoot up your sugar levels too. Do hba1c tests after a month to make sure they are not

druskacik 1y ago

Okay, I genuinely thought that consuming as much protein powder as you describe would make person feel sick, you surprised me. To each his own. The fact remains, research suggests overdosing on protein supplements has potential health hazards. "According to international consensus, the daily reference intake of protein for the healthy adult population is 0.8 g/kg body weight. However, individuals who engage in physical activity may require more protein, ranging from 1.2 to 2 grams per kilogram of body weight. To fulfill these requirements, many athletes and active individuals opt for whey protein (WP) supplements to increase their protein intake. The appropriate amount of WP intake for individuals depends on their objectives, current level of physical activity, and body composition. Research suggests that a dosage of 20 to 25 g/day of WP provides the desired benefits, while amounts >40 g/day may lead to adverse effects on the body"[0] [0] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10761008/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10761008/

gruez 1y ago
Is that from the protein supplements themselves, or from consuming excessive protein in the first place? In other words if you ate the same amount but as steaks/eggs, would you feel the same symptoms?
- hollerith 1y ago
  40 g of protein per day is only 6.1 oz of chicken tenderloins (raw weight) per day which is very unlikely to cause the effect described in the paper ("hyperfiltration and increased urinary calcium excretion which can, in turn, lead to chronic kidney disease development"). People who eat a lot of protein die sooner than people who eat less, but that is probably because plentiful protein prevents the body from entering a state called "autophagy". Intentionally inducing autophagy for 5 days every other month (by using Valter Longo's protocol) while eating plenty of protein the rest of the time is probably better for most people than a consistently low-protein diet as long as one is avoiding red meat (provided the people can afford the protein which will be the case for almost everyone in the developed world).
gamblor956 1y ago

Spooky23 1y ago

As with all things it depends on you. In general lots of protein can impact blood sugar. Whey protein without sufficient exercise can cause liver issues, so you shouldn’t go crazy with it unless you’re regularly monitored by a doctor. (Standard blood panels would detect an issue iirc)