> The Matrix Foundation is currently massively underfunded (contributing significantly to many of the complaints in this thread, especially around Trust & Safet

> The Matrix Foundation is currently massively underfunded (contributing significantly to many of the complaints in this thread, especially around Trust & Safety) and even then losing money. It gets no money from folks like France or NATO despite their use of Matrix. You can see the list of financially contributing projects at https://matrix.org/support https://matrix.org/support - there are only two governmental entities who support Matrix directly today; Gematik in Germany and another unlisted European govt. That some specific organization is underfunded does not mean that whole Matrix was built by a few volunteer developers here and there. > Element on the other hand does have a bunch of customers like NATO, but is also losing money, thanks to governmental Matrix deals often going to system integrators who win contracts with Element's FOSS software and then don't contribute any $ back to Element. I explained the mess at FOSDEM: https://youtu.be/lkCKhP1jxdk?t=740 https://youtu.be/lkCKhP1jxdk?t=740 and there's a good article about a typical instance of this (in German) at https://www.heise.de/news/Wie-Behoerden-und-ihre-Auftragnehm https://www.heise.de/news/Wie-Behoerden-und-ihre-Auftragnehm... That's kind of the point of FOSS. Everyone can crete their own forks, and do not have a duty to contribute money, especially not to an another for-profit company. That happens to all major Free Software projects. Many users of, say, Linux kernel, do not contribute any money at all. Some even refuse to abide by the GPL license (which is less okay), but Linux still not only survives, but thrives. > (by the way, you seem to spend a a lot of time telling everyone how shit Matrix is; don't you have anything better to do? :) What is a "lot of time"? A few short messages online? I think I have explained a realistic user perspective on Matrix. It works, but it has some problems. I have even told that the abuse spam problem has been gotten under control, in the recent threads concerning that. You have gotten to the point where people care about Matrix. That's a big deal. Matrix is quite possibly a bigger thing now than IRC was at its very peak. That is a big achievement. Unless there is something big I don't know about, your situation is far from hopeless. There is no need to play a victim, give up or to start insulting your users. The idea that citizens should just shut up about a software project partially built on public money is completely ludicrous.