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Anecdata, but looking at the higher end of the "normal people" market Intel has already lost. It's macbooks everywhere. The only non-apple notebooks I see are e

Anecdata, but looking at the higher end of the "normal people" market Intel has already lost. It's macbooks everywhere. The only non-apple notebooks I see are either for cost reasons or tech experts that want more contol (a small group) And Apple is silently reducing prices by making the cheap Macbook Air close in specs to the Pro. So they're likely to start taking more and more of the midrange market as well.

surgical_fire 1y ago
> The only non-apple notebooks I see are either for cost reasons or tech experts that want more contol (a small group) You forgot gamers. I know plenty of people with beefy and expensive notebooks that are not Apple.
- giantrobot 1y ago
  How big is the "gamer" market really? How much is it set to grow? Are "gamers" really going to be buying the high margin kit from Intel or are they going to instead spend their money with Nvidia on the beefiest GPUs? Even today a mid-tier CPU is way more than enough to handle even the most demanding games so long as you've got a beefy CPU. Over the past twenty years games have demanded far more in the way of GPUs than they have in CPUs. That market doesn't make Intel zero dollars or anything but I don't really see it a market that's going to drive a bunch of growth in Intel's revenue or specifically their margins. Long gone are the days where buying the Extreme Edition CPU got some appreciable extra performance in games.
  - surgical_fire 1y ago
    > How big is the "gamer" market really? How much is it set to grow? Are "gamers" really going to be buying the high margin kit from Intel I was saying that more about your argument about Apple products. I don't think Intel benefits from the gamer segment, my point is only that there is a significant segment that donown computers and that segment has no interest in Apple notebooks. In fact, basically everyone I know that owns a laptop has a laptop primarily to play games, not macbooks.

surgical_fire 1y ago

> The only non-apple notebooks I see are either for cost reasons or tech experts that want more contol (a small group) You forgot gamers. I know plenty of people with beefy and expensive notebooks that are not Apple.

giantrobot 1y ago
How big is the "gamer" market really? How much is it set to grow? Are "gamers" really going to be buying the high margin kit from Intel or are they going to instead spend their money with Nvidia on the beefiest GPUs? Even today a mid-tier CPU is way more than enough to handle even the most demanding games so long as you've got a beefy CPU. Over the past twenty years games have demanded far more in the way of GPUs than they have in CPUs. That market doesn't make Intel zero dollars or anything but I don't really see it a market that's going to drive a bunch of growth in Intel's revenue or specifically their margins. Long gone are the days where buying the Extreme Edition CPU got some appreciable extra performance in games.
- surgical_fire 1y ago
  > How big is the "gamer" market really? How much is it set to grow? Are "gamers" really going to be buying the high margin kit from Intel I was saying that more about your argument about Apple products. I don't think Intel benefits from the gamer segment, my point is only that there is a significant segment that donown computers and that segment has no interest in Apple notebooks. In fact, basically everyone I know that owns a laptop has a laptop primarily to play games, not macbooks.