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Their newest release uses avocado oil, fwiw: https://www.beyondmeat.com/en-US/products/beyond-beef/ground#:~:text=our%20new%20avocado%20oil%20recipe https://www

Their newest release uses avocado oil, fwiw: https://www.beyondmeat.com/en-US/products/beyond-beef/ground#:~:text=our%20new%20avocado%20oil%20recipe https://www.beyondmeat.com/en-US/products/beyond-beef/ground...

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
Is anyone really pretending these are healthier than a grass-fed beef patty? Or cooked vegetables? The health pitch on these products has always struck me as incredibly weird.
- onli 1y ago
  Yes. Meat consumption is not exactly healthy. It's absolutely plausible that replacing it with something like this is a net plus. That "grass-fed beef" is like a healthy standout is an unsubstantiated myth.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > It's absolutely plausible that replacing it with something like this is a net plus Plausible. But both unproven and unlikely. To the extent we’ve found anything out in nutrition, it’s that processing away from the kitchen is generally bad. > That "grass-fed beef" is like a healthy standout is an unsubstantiated myth Nope [1]. [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8728510/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8728510/
    - onli 1y ago
      > Plausible. But both unproven and unlikely. Not sure why you claim that, there definitely are studies in that direction. https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-021-01922-9 https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s1291... for example, you can find many more. I'm not saying it's absolutely certain, but it's definitively not unlikely. "Processing away from the kitchen" on the other hand is a very broad field, and the current thinking seems to be that it is too broad. There are absolutely negative health outcomes observed there, but it is likely about aspects. So at first one has to have certainty about which part of processing is bad, to then known if Beyond Meat is processed in an unhealthy way. That is not at all clear. There is a big difference between a pizza and a chicken nugget is what I'm saying. > > That "grass-fed beef" is like a healthy standout is an unsubstantiated myth > Nope [1]. > [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8728510/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8728510/ One study, negative and positive aspects in the composition, no tests and thus no conclusion about the overall health aspects of eating that. Your nope is frankly bullshit.
      - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        Meat consumption being linked to adverse health effects isn’t disputed. Replacing meat with Beyond Meat being a healthy choice is. > negative and positive aspects in the composition, no tests and thus no conclusion about the overall health aspects This is sort of like saying a study that shows a certain food contains lead that doesn’t also test for the effects of that specific way of ingesting lead is useless. That said, what you ask for exists [1]. Though I suppose now we’ll need a double-blind controlled study. [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8909876/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8909876/

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

Is anyone really pretending these are healthier than a grass-fed beef patty? Or cooked vegetables? The health pitch on these products has always struck me as incredibly weird.

onli 1y ago
Yes. Meat consumption is not exactly healthy. It's absolutely plausible that replacing it with something like this is a net plus. That "grass-fed beef" is like a healthy standout is an unsubstantiated myth.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > It's absolutely plausible that replacing it with something like this is a net plus Plausible. But both unproven and unlikely. To the extent we’ve found anything out in nutrition, it’s that processing away from the kitchen is generally bad. > That "grass-fed beef" is like a healthy standout is an unsubstantiated myth Nope [1]. [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8728510/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8728510/
  - onli 1y ago
    > Plausible. But both unproven and unlikely. Not sure why you claim that, there definitely are studies in that direction. https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-021-01922-9 https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s1291... for example, you can find many more. I'm not saying it's absolutely certain, but it's definitively not unlikely. "Processing away from the kitchen" on the other hand is a very broad field, and the current thinking seems to be that it is too broad. There are absolutely negative health outcomes observed there, but it is likely about aspects. So at first one has to have certainty about which part of processing is bad, to then known if Beyond Meat is processed in an unhealthy way. That is not at all clear. There is a big difference between a pizza and a chicken nugget is what I'm saying. > > That "grass-fed beef" is like a healthy standout is an unsubstantiated myth > Nope [1]. > [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8728510/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8728510/ One study, negative and positive aspects in the composition, no tests and thus no conclusion about the overall health aspects of eating that. Your nope is frankly bullshit.
    - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      Meat consumption being linked to adverse health effects isn’t disputed. Replacing meat with Beyond Meat being a healthy choice is. > negative and positive aspects in the composition, no tests and thus no conclusion about the overall health aspects This is sort of like saying a study that shows a certain food contains lead that doesn’t also test for the effects of that specific way of ingesting lead is useless. That said, what you ask for exists [1]. Though I suppose now we’ll need a double-blind controlled study. [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8909876/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8909876/