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You're not taking into account two factors: union bosses don't like it because it means their fiefs shrink. Politicians/parties don't like it because it denies

by gruez 1y ago

You're not taking into account two factors: union bosses don't like it because it means their fiefs shrink. Politicians/parties don't like it because it denies them a captive voting bloc. They'd actually have to do stuff like walking the length of Manhattan to get elected, rather than securing the major voting blocs by making a few backroom deals with the top unions/business leaders.

TylerE 1y ago
This is ridiculous conspiracy. A few thousand people in a city of millions is not a dominant voting bloc.
- djankauskas 1y ago
  What matters is who votes in the Democratic primary, a pool that is usually much smaller than the total number of eligible voters.
  - LeifCarrotson 1y ago
    Do union members reliably vote in primary elections?
    - Ericson2314 1y ago
      Yes, and they canvas too. But Mandami just won despite the all the machine unions endorsing Cuomo, so the machine now looks a lot weaker. (Yes, the leftmost candidate had a lot less union support. Chew on that.)
  - throw0101d 1y ago
    > What matters is who votes in the Democratic primary, a pool that is usually much smaller than the total number of eligible voters. Most "blue-collar" / "working-class" voters lean GOP nowadays: * https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/gop-rapidly-becoming-blue-collar-party-here-s-what-means-n1258468 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/gop-rapidly-... * https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/04/new-republican-party-working-class-coalition-00122822 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/04/new-republ... Which is ironic given GOP policies are generally anti-worker. A lot of folks are voting due to their (perceived) grievances and not in their actual self interest.
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- lotsofpulp 1y ago
  Not at all. In local politics, government employee unions and their family members get their way many times because those are the people who show up to vote, including in the primaries. Especially the cops/firefighters.
- IncreasePosts 1y ago
  Every other union head is sweating seeing that though

by gruez 1y ago

TylerE 1y ago

This is ridiculous conspiracy. A few thousand people in a city of millions is not a dominant voting bloc.

djankauskas 1y ago
What matters is who votes in the Democratic primary, a pool that is usually much smaller than the total number of eligible voters.
- LeifCarrotson 1y ago
  Do union members reliably vote in primary elections?
  - Ericson2314 1y ago
    Yes, and they canvas too. But Mandami just won despite the all the machine unions endorsing Cuomo, so the machine now looks a lot weaker. (Yes, the leftmost candidate had a lot less union support. Chew on that.)
- throw0101d 1y ago
  > What matters is who votes in the Democratic primary, a pool that is usually much smaller than the total number of eligible voters. Most "blue-collar" / "working-class" voters lean GOP nowadays: * https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/gop-rapidly-becoming-blue-collar-party-here-s-what-means-n1258468 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/gop-rapidly-... * https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/04/new-republican-party-working-class-coalition-00122822 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/04/new-republ... Which is ironic given GOP policies are generally anti-worker. A lot of folks are voting due to their (perceived) grievances and not in their actual self interest.
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lotsofpulp 1y ago
Not at all. In local politics, government employee unions and their family members get their way many times because those are the people who show up to vote, including in the primaries. Especially the cops/firefighters.
IncreasePosts 1y ago
Every other union head is sweating seeing that though