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You have to be totally naive to buy a Ring camera in the first place. Of course it will be used in ways you can't control, it uploads everything to "the cloud".

mousethatroared 1y ago
Obviously i don't have Ring. But everyone else does, so what's the point? My privacy is always compromised because tech junkies (as opposed to techies) insist on indulging in stupid things like 21 and me, Gmail, or Ring and I get swept along with it.
- thephyber 1y ago
  > 21 and me The company sequences human DNA. The number in the name of the corp is the number of chromosomes in human DNA. I hope you and I both have more than 21 chromosomes…
  - mousethatroared 1y ago
    Shows you how little I care about knowing my genome.
  - thaumasiotes 1y ago
    > The number in the name of the corp is the number of chromosomes in human DNA. The number of chromosome pairs, not the number of chromosomes.
smotched 1y ago
That doesn't matter when all your neighbors have one, and the one in front of you has theirs pointed directly at your house.
- fuzzzerd 1y ago
  There is no solution to that as far as I can tell, and it really stinks.
  - Finnucane 1y ago
    lasers?
    - petre 1y ago
      Even better: an infrared laser.
  - jkaplowitz 1y ago
    Legislation would help. As one example, a neighbor pointing their Ring at your property without your consent is entirely illegal in Germany.
    - 15155 1y ago
      And thankfully this will run afoul of the First Amendment in the United States.
      - fn-mote 1y ago
        I think in the US it’s more like “everything you can see through the window is public”, which is also an extreme.
        immibis 1y ago
        Indeed. In Germany, it's generally legal to see in people's windows, legal for them to do whatever they want in their windows (you can't file a complaint someone is naked in their apartment with the curtains open - they will just tell you not to look if you don't want to see it) and illegal to record in other people's windows. Illegal recording is a pretty good rule actually. Almost every party I've been to has a rule against filming dance floors, although in German law it's only illegal to publish a recording "of" a person. The flip side to illegal recording is that it's effectively legal to do silly things without worrying it'll haunt you forever, and that's pretty cool. Note the relatively relaxed attitude to things like public nudity (which is only legal in certain places as I understand it, but still). Almost every Berlin party I've ever been to has a rule against filming.
- ethagnawl 1y ago
  Dogwood bushes and Rose of Sharon grow rather quickly and make a nice "green screen". They lose some of their coverage in the winter, though, so you way want to mix in a row of evergreens for good measure.
  - petre 1y ago
    Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Columnaris'. Grows quite fast, at the rate of 8 in to 1 ft per year and stays green in the winter. We have a regulation regarding fence height. Whoever wants a higher fence uses this tree, it can grow up to 40 feet.
  - HelloMcFly 1y ago
    I can't get past this comment without noting how invasive and aggressive spreading rose of sharon is, I'm constantly pulling out new growth due to my neighbor's plant. What a headache.
- herbst 1y ago
  So you decided it's ok to be part of the problem because others are too?

mousethatroared 1y ago

Obviously i don't have Ring. But everyone else does, so what's the point? My privacy is always compromised because tech junkies (as opposed to techies) insist on indulging in stupid things like 21 and me, Gmail, or Ring and I get swept along with it.

thephyber 1y ago
> 21 and me The company sequences human DNA. The number in the name of the corp is the number of chromosomes in human DNA. I hope you and I both have more than 21 chromosomes…
- mousethatroared 1y ago
  Shows you how little I care about knowing my genome.
- thaumasiotes 1y ago
  > The number in the name of the corp is the number of chromosomes in human DNA. The number of chromosome pairs, not the number of chromosomes.

smotched 1y ago

That doesn't matter when all your neighbors have one, and the one in front of you has theirs pointed directly at your house.

fuzzzerd 1y ago
There is no solution to that as far as I can tell, and it really stinks.
- Finnucane 1y ago
  lasers?
  - petre 1y ago
    Even better: an infrared laser.
- jkaplowitz 1y ago
  Legislation would help. As one example, a neighbor pointing their Ring at your property without your consent is entirely illegal in Germany.
  - 15155 1y ago
    And thankfully this will run afoul of the First Amendment in the United States.
    - fn-mote 1y ago
      I think in the US it’s more like “everything you can see through the window is public”, which is also an extreme.
      - immibis 1y ago
        Indeed. In Germany, it's generally legal to see in people's windows, legal for them to do whatever they want in their windows (you can't file a complaint someone is naked in their apartment with the curtains open - they will just tell you not to look if you don't want to see it) and illegal to record in other people's windows. Illegal recording is a pretty good rule actually. Almost every party I've been to has a rule against filming dance floors, although in German law it's only illegal to publish a recording "of" a person. The flip side to illegal recording is that it's effectively legal to do silly things without worrying it'll haunt you forever, and that's pretty cool. Note the relatively relaxed attitude to things like public nudity (which is only legal in certain places as I understand it, but still). Almost every Berlin party I've ever been to has a rule against filming.
ethagnawl 1y ago
Dogwood bushes and Rose of Sharon grow rather quickly and make a nice "green screen". They lose some of their coverage in the winter, though, so you way want to mix in a row of evergreens for good measure.
- petre 1y ago
  Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Columnaris'. Grows quite fast, at the rate of 8 in to 1 ft per year and stays green in the winter. We have a regulation regarding fence height. Whoever wants a higher fence uses this tree, it can grow up to 40 feet.
- HelloMcFly 1y ago
  I can't get past this comment without noting how invasive and aggressive spreading rose of sharon is, I'm constantly pulling out new growth due to my neighbor's plant. What a headache.
herbst 1y ago
So you decided it's ok to be part of the problem because others are too?