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No one deserves kids. Kids are not goods to buy off a shelf. Rather kids deserve parents. It's literally an inversion.
by mousethatroared 1y ago
No one deserves kids. Kids are not goods to buy off a shelf.
Rather kids deserve parents.
It's literally an inversion.
- throwaway7783 1y agoIf you are equating conceiving children with IVF to goods to be bought off the shelf, there is really nothing to talk about. Having biological kids is a hard-wired instinct, and one of the very basic survival-of-the-genes things. I have no idea what you mean by kids deserving parents. There are no kids without parents to begin with.
- mousethatroared 1y agoA lot of things are "hard wired" and yet we expect people to control themselves. Men's sexual drive, for example, is tuned to fairly rapey if not for a "patriarchal" society that crushes this drive through the threat of a girls father beating a boy to a pulp. Stats are pretty clear here too wrt sex workers and their relationship to their fathers. And IVF is a tragedy of rented wombs, unfulfilled motherhood dreams, expensive and painful surgeries almost exclusively brunt by women whilst profited by men. But I'm not worried. A society that inverts the child-parent merit is one whose open loop gain is less than one. It's pretty obvious why: those who think children are deserved are unlikely to have the ability of self-sacrifice to want more than the one, maybe two kids.
- throwaway7783 1y agoI think I will respectfully disagree and stop at that. There are a lot of assumptions and statements mentioned as absolute truths in your response. Children are celebrated. Rape is abhorred. I have no idea what you mean by IVF is rented wombs and profited by men. Are you confusing IVF to surrogacy?