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Initially, it had the same effect on people until they got used to it. In the near future, whether the text is yours or not won't matter. What will matter is th
by pyman 1y ago
Initially, it had the same effect on people until they got used to it. In the near future, whether the text is yours or not won't matter. What will matter is the message or idea you're communicating. Just like today, it doesn't matter if the code is yours, only the product you're shipping and problem it's solving.
- aspenmayer 1y agoCode is either fit for a given purpose or not. Communicating with a LLM instead of directly with the desired recipient may be considered fit for purpose for the receiving party, but it’s not for the LLM user to say what the goals of the writer is, nor is it for the LLM user to say what the goals of the writer ought to be. LLMs for communication are inherently unfit for purpose for anything beyond basic yes/no and basic autocomplete. Otherwise I’m not even interacting with a human in the loop except before they hit send, which doesn’t inspire confidence.
- majormajor 1y agoSimilar-looking effects are not the "same" effect. "Change always triggers backlash" does not imply "all backlash is unwarranted." > What will matter is the message or idea you're communicating. Just like today, it doesn't matter if the code is yours, only the product you're shipping and problem it's solving. But like the article explains about why it's rude: the less thought you put into it, the less chance the message is well communicated. The less thought you put into the code you ship, the less chance it will solve the problem reliably and consistently. You aren't replying to "don't use LLM tools" you're replying to "don't just trust and forward their slop blindly."
- jaredcwhite 1y agoDoesn't matter today? What are you even talking about? It completely matters if the code you write is yours. The only people saying otherwise have fallen prey to the cult of slop.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y agoWhy does it matter where the code came from if it is correct?
- jaredcwhite 1y agoWhy does it matter where the paint came from if it looks pretty? Why does it matter where the legal claims came from if a judge accepts them? Why does it matter where the sound waves came from if it sounds catchy? Why does it matter? Why does anything matter? Sorry, I normally love debating epistemology but not here on Hacker News. :)
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y agoI understand the points about aesthetics but not law; the judge is there to interpret legal arguments and a lawyer who presents an argument with false premises, like a fabricated case, is being irresponsible. It is very similar with coding, except the judge is a PM. It does not seem to matter where the code nor the legal argument came from. What matters is that they are coherent.
- johnnyanmac 1y ago>It does not seem to matter where the code nor the legal argument came from. You haven't read enough incoherent laws, I see. https://www.sevenslegal.com/criminal-attorney/strange-state-laws-illegal-california/587/#los-angeles https://www.sevenslegal.com/criminal-attorney/strange-state-... I'm sure you can make a coherent argument for "It is illegal to cry on the witness stand", but not a reasonable one for actual humans. You're in a formal setting being asked to recall potentially traumatic incidents. No decent person is going to punish an emotional reaction to such actions. Then there are laws simply made to serve corporate interests (the "zoot suit", for instance within that article. Jaywalking is another famous one). There's a reason an AI Judge is practically a tired trope in the cyberpunk genre. We don't want robots controlling human behavior.
- threatofrain 1y agoI think just looking at information transfer misses the picture. What's going to happen is that my Siri is going to talk to your Cortana, and that our digital secretaries will either think we're fit to meet or we're not. Like real secretaries do. You largely won't know such conversations are happening.