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I do think it’s interesting how Claude Code makes shell and dev automation more important – it also makes testing and code review more important So there is pr

by chubot 1y ago

I do think it’s interesting how Claude Code makes shell and dev automation more important – it also makes testing and code review more important So there is probably some room for innovation here But most of these seems like problems with Claude (and maybe fundamental problems with LLMs), not problems with the CLI interface: This started a game of whack-a-mole where the LLM would also attempt to change the pre-commit hooks! I had to fix it by denying Edit(.git/hooks/pre-commit) to my project’s .claude/settings.json. I look forward to its next lazy innovation. If you watch Claude Code, you’ll see that it often uses head -n100 to limit the results apriori. It also gets lost about which directory it’s in, and it will frustratingly flail around trying to run commands in different directories until it finds the right one.

kordlessagain 1y ago
Agree with the whack-a-mole effect, where it goes from nailing the problem or bug to absolutely destroying the code. I would offer some of these MCP tools I wrote/had written to solve the problem: https://github.com/kordless/gnosis-evolve https://github.com/kordless/gnosis-evolve. Tools are in contrib-tools. It has helped tremendously having a dedicated build service that CC can control through MCP vs running Docker itself because it can then restart the container and test. And, the fuzzy search tool and diff editor seem to perform better than the replacement strategy Claude Code uses, most of the time. I continue to work on the editor when I run into issues with it, so happy to help anyone interested in implementing their own file editing (and search) strategy. You will need to convert these to Claude Code format, but all you need to do is ask CC to do it for you...
- pbronez 1y ago
  Your license is interesting. To meet your intent, I suggest you revisit this definition: > “Military Entity" means any armed forces branch, defense department, or military organization of any nation or alliance. As written, this only applies to nation states. It excludes many kinds of human organizations that use force to impose their will on others. The word for this is “Terrorist.” While that term has been applied to many groups for many reasons, it technically means “the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.” If you add Terrorism + Nation-State Militaries should cover most everyone you intend here, including organized crime and private military contractors. You could add “financial gain” to the definition if you want to ensure those last two are captured.
  - Uehreka 1y ago
    The words “license” and “interesting” should not be in the same sentence. Unless you are a lawyer practicing IP law, do not attempt modify or customize licenses, period. Contrary to what pbronez is saying, you have no guarantee that the terms “Terrorism + Nation-State Militaries” will function anything like you expect them to. Not to mention that most mainstream licenses have had to be crafted in special ways to deal with differences in what different countries will even allow you to put in a license (you can’t generally just write “by using this software you agree to name your child after me” and have it actually hold up). If you don’t want your software to be used by the military industrial complex, I get it, but DO NOT just try to hand-spin a license based on what seems to make sense. Instead, consider that you’re not the first person to want this, and there are probably like 3 existing licenses crafted by actual lawyers who know what they’re doing and can also explain the possible pitfalls in using the license.
  - IncreasePosts 1y ago
    Nation states might actually follow the license. Would terrorists?
  - jampekka 1y ago
    > The word for this is “Terrorist.” Or Freedom Fighter or Opposition Forces or Militia etc. The term used correlates significantly with how west-aligned the armed group is geopolitically. With Terrorist it would probably be interpreted as whatever is assigned into US/EU terrorist organization lists.
  - fsckboy 1y ago
    >As written, this only applies to nation states. if you're quibbling about legal definitions, your "nation state" is used incorrectly. A "nation" is a large ethnic group, for example the German nation, the Cherokee nation, etc. A state is geography that is its own political entity/country, for example the gulf states. Germany is a nation state, the Cherokee nation is not a state at all. Netherlands and France are nation states, Belgium is not, its just a state. Austria is part of the German nation but it is not part of the nation state of Germany. Australia or Canada are states but not nations.
com2kid 1y ago
I'd argue that many CLI tools output too much log spew by default and rely on making humans take up the burden of parsing through masses of output to find the one useful line. For another example of where this is a problem, look at any large company that pays to keep logs in kibana, the amount of over logging paid for is insane. Approximately 1/3rd of my Claude code tokens are spent parsing CLI output, that is insane! Often Claude doesn't catch what it needs in the massive log outputs and I have to go through the logs myself to find the problem and point it out to Claude.

by chubot 1y ago

kordlessagain 1y ago

Agree with the whack-a-mole effect, where it goes from nailing the problem or bug to absolutely destroying the code. I would offer some of these MCP tools I wrote/had written to solve the problem: https://github.com/kordless/gnosis-evolve https://github.com/kordless/gnosis-evolve. Tools are in contrib-tools. It has helped tremendously having a dedicated build service that CC can control through MCP vs running Docker itself because it can then restart the container and test. And, the fuzzy search tool and diff editor seem to perform better than the replacement strategy Claude Code uses, most of the time. I continue to work on the editor when I run into issues with it, so happy to help anyone interested in implementing their own file editing (and search) strategy. You will need to convert these to Claude Code format, but all you need to do is ask CC to do it for you...

pbronez 1y ago
Your license is interesting. To meet your intent, I suggest you revisit this definition: > “Military Entity" means any armed forces branch, defense department, or military organization of any nation or alliance. As written, this only applies to nation states. It excludes many kinds of human organizations that use force to impose their will on others. The word for this is “Terrorist.” While that term has been applied to many groups for many reasons, it technically means “the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.” If you add Terrorism + Nation-State Militaries should cover most everyone you intend here, including organized crime and private military contractors. You could add “financial gain” to the definition if you want to ensure those last two are captured.
- Uehreka 1y ago
  The words “license” and “interesting” should not be in the same sentence. Unless you are a lawyer practicing IP law, do not attempt modify or customize licenses, period. Contrary to what pbronez is saying, you have no guarantee that the terms “Terrorism + Nation-State Militaries” will function anything like you expect them to. Not to mention that most mainstream licenses have had to be crafted in special ways to deal with differences in what different countries will even allow you to put in a license (you can’t generally just write “by using this software you agree to name your child after me” and have it actually hold up). If you don’t want your software to be used by the military industrial complex, I get it, but DO NOT just try to hand-spin a license based on what seems to make sense. Instead, consider that you’re not the first person to want this, and there are probably like 3 existing licenses crafted by actual lawyers who know what they’re doing and can also explain the possible pitfalls in using the license.
- IncreasePosts 1y ago
  Nation states might actually follow the license. Would terrorists?
- jampekka 1y ago
  > The word for this is “Terrorist.” Or Freedom Fighter or Opposition Forces or Militia etc. The term used correlates significantly with how west-aligned the armed group is geopolitically. With Terrorist it would probably be interpreted as whatever is assigned into US/EU terrorist organization lists.
- fsckboy 1y ago
  >As written, this only applies to nation states. if you're quibbling about legal definitions, your "nation state" is used incorrectly. A "nation" is a large ethnic group, for example the German nation, the Cherokee nation, etc. A state is geography that is its own political entity/country, for example the gulf states. Germany is a nation state, the Cherokee nation is not a state at all. Netherlands and France are nation states, Belgium is not, its just a state. Austria is part of the German nation but it is not part of the nation state of Germany. Australia or Canada are states but not nations.

com2kid 1y ago

I'd argue that many CLI tools output too much log spew by default and rely on making humans take up the burden of parsing through masses of output to find the one useful line. For another example of where this is a problem, look at any large company that pays to keep logs in kibana, the amount of over logging paid for is insane. Approximately 1/3rd of my Claude code tokens are spent parsing CLI output, that is insane! Often Claude doesn't catch what it needs in the massive log outputs and I have to go through the logs myself to find the problem and point it out to Claude.