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It's not dogma, it's just advice. And I think the vast majority of people would just ignore it. Frankly, advice on having children from celibate men doesn't ne
by olddustytrail 1y ago
It's not dogma, it's just advice. And I think the vast majority of people would just ignore it.
Frankly, advice on having children from celibate men doesn't need special consideration from women.
I say this as someone who was at least raised Catholic and still has an affection for the faith.
- svieira 1y agoIt is in fact dogma that IVF is forbidden to Catholics (see Humanae Vitae #12 and the Catechism #2376) https://www.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae.html https://www.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/en/encyclicals/docume... https://www.vatican.va/content/catechism/en/part_three/section_two/chapter_two/article_6/iii_the_love_of_husband_and_wife.html https://www.vatican.va/content/catechism/en/part_three/secti...
- olddustytrail 1y agoNeither of those are dogma.
- mousethatroared 1y agoStrictly speaking no, dogma has a very specific definition and refers to things of a theological nature like the dogma of the Immaculate Conception which 90% of American Catholics wouldn't get right (most would answer that it refers to the virgin conception of Jesus). That doesn't mean the Church's teaching isn't final and binding.
- olddustytrail 1y agoIt absolutely means that. If you are a Catholic and believe that a church teaching is wrong, you have a duty to speak up and dispute it. Teachings can be reversed and they are absolutely not binding. These disputes are supposed to be done in humility with the assumption that the church is probably right, but that's pretty much the same as arguing with Linux kernel devs...
- basisword 1y agoGiven the discarding of some embryos it would seem pretty clearly against Catholic teaching no?
- olddustytrail 1y agoI think it discards eggs, not embryos, but I'm not an expert. At any rate it still is guidance not dogma.
- svieira 1y agoYou are absolutely correct! (Apologies, should have double checked before posting). It is in fact doctrine, not dogma: https://www.catholic.com/qa/what-is-the-difference-between-doctrine-and-dogma https://www.catholic.com/qa/what-is-the-difference-between-d...