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Evolution is the only client on Linux (that I’m aware of) that fully supports Microsoft exchange and Google out of the box without any plugins. I used thunderbi

Evolution is the only client on Linux (that I’m aware of) that fully supports Microsoft exchange and Google out of the box without any plugins. I used thunderbird for a long time, however I got frustrated so many times after things broke after every update because essential plugins stopped working. Yes, you may say Evolution UI is old, but the software is rock solid and softwares in general are more than their GUI. It’s good to bring awareness about the tracking but I’m not so bothered by it, as its hard to find software that doesn’t track you these days

nehal3m 1y ago
>It’s good to bring awareness about the tracking but I’m not so bothered by it, as its hard to find software that doesn’t track you these days That's a non-sequitur. Just because it's common does not mean it's okay.
- fsckboy 1y ago
  they didn't say it was ok, they said it was good to be informed about it, they were not personally bothered by it, and they added that it's difficult to find software that doesn't do it. there is no non sequitor
  - nehal3m 1y ago
    They said they're not bothered by it as it's difficult to find software that doesn't spy on you. I interpret that as 'I am not bothered by this because there are no alternatives'. So there is a non sequitur.
zettabomb 1y ago
I feel like I should note that Exchange support is indeed a plugin, and isn't installed by default on (for example) Fedora. However, I believe it's a first party plugin.
forlorn 1y ago
Thunderbird has reportedly added experimental Exchange support in 140. Though I haven't figured out how to enable and test it :)
- newscracker 1y ago
  The support is only for the EWS protocol (MS Graph will probably come next year). You can enable it in beta by going to Config Editor (this is primarily for advanced users), searching for the preference "experimental.mail.ews.enabled" and setting it to true. You would have to manually add the account. Currently only mail is supported. No calendar support. See https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/07/thunderbird-monthly-development-digest-june-2025/ https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/07/thunderbird-monthly-dev...
  - dotancohen 1y ago
    Thunderbird users who need full Exchange support today, including mail, are encouraged to try the Owl addon. I used it a few years ago, very happy with it. I think it costs between $10 and $20, not a big expense for business software.
- ho_schi 1y ago
  It was postponed. The release page is wrong :) Probably Thunderbird tries it again with 141.
ho_schi 1y ago
Same here. Nowadays we've switched from Exchange and use IMAP. I stay with Evolution because the client and integration is good. I like some design decisions in the UI. Evolution allows to use client-side decorations and a traditional menu bar, at the same time. And they've added integrated Markdown support lately. While an upgrade to Gtk4 is hopefully coming. I would love to see support for notes via IMAP, similar to how iOS does for many years. PS: If your E-Mails are stored on an Exchange-Server (or: worse Azure) the discussed problem is the least issue.

nehal3m 1y ago

>It’s good to bring awareness about the tracking but I’m not so bothered by it, as its hard to find software that doesn’t track you these days That's a non-sequitur. Just because it's common does not mean it's okay.

fsckboy 1y ago
they didn't say it was ok, they said it was good to be informed about it, they were not personally bothered by it, and they added that it's difficult to find software that doesn't do it. there is no non sequitor
- nehal3m 1y ago
  They said they're not bothered by it as it's difficult to find software that doesn't spy on you. I interpret that as 'I am not bothered by this because there are no alternatives'. So there is a non sequitur.

zettabomb 1y ago

I feel like I should note that Exchange support is indeed a plugin, and isn't installed by default on (for example) Fedora. However, I believe it's a first party plugin.

forlorn 1y ago

Thunderbird has reportedly added experimental Exchange support in 140. Though I haven't figured out how to enable and test it :)

newscracker 1y ago
The support is only for the EWS protocol (MS Graph will probably come next year). You can enable it in beta by going to Config Editor (this is primarily for advanced users), searching for the preference "experimental.mail.ews.enabled" and setting it to true. You would have to manually add the account. Currently only mail is supported. No calendar support. See https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/07/thunderbird-monthly-development-digest-june-2025/ https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/07/thunderbird-monthly-dev...
- dotancohen 1y ago
  Thunderbird users who need full Exchange support today, including mail, are encouraged to try the Owl addon. I used it a few years ago, very happy with it. I think it costs between $10 and $20, not a big expense for business software.
ho_schi 1y ago
It was postponed. The release page is wrong :) Probably Thunderbird tries it again with 141.

ho_schi 1y ago

Same here. Nowadays we've switched from Exchange and use IMAP. I stay with Evolution because the client and integration is good. I like some design decisions in the UI. Evolution allows to use client-side decorations and a traditional menu bar, at the same time. And they've added integrated Markdown support lately. While an upgrade to Gtk4 is hopefully coming. I would love to see support for notes via IMAP, similar to how iOS does for many years. PS: If your E-Mails are stored on an Exchange-Server (or: worse Azure) the discussed problem is the least issue.