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> the environmental impact of jackasses mining jackass coin, or jackasses training LLMs is not insignificant (this was actually stated in agreement with the or
by noduerme 1y ago
> the environmental impact of jackasses mining jackass coin, or jackasses training LLMs is not insignificant
(this was actually stated in agreement with the original poster, who you clearly misunderstood, so there's no "what-about" involved here. They were condemning all kinds of consumption, including the frivolous ones I mentioned).
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I'm afraid you've missed both my small point and my wider point.
My small point was to argue against the parent's comment that
>>reducing ressources consumption to the minimum required should always be a concern if we intend to have a sustainable future
I disagree with this concept on the basis that nothing can be accomplished on a large scale if the primary concern is simply to reduce resource consumption to a minimum. If you care to disagree with that, then please address it.
The larger point was that this theory leads inexorably to the idea that humans should just kill themselves or disappear; and it almost always comes from people who themselves want to kill themselves or disappear.
- simgt 1y ago> if the primary concern is simply to reduce resource consumption to a minimum ..."required". That allows you to fit pretty much everything in that requirement. Which actually makes my initial point a bit weak, as some would put "delivering 4K quality tiktok videos" as a requirement. Point is that energy consumption and broad environmental impact has to be a constraint in how we design our systems (and businesses). I stand by my accusations of whataboutism and strawmaning, though.
- noduerme 1y agocarelessly thrown about accusations of whataboutism and strawmaning are an excellent example of whataboutism and strawmaning. I was making a specific point, directly to the topic, without either putting words in their mouth or addressing an unrelated issue. I'll stand by my retort.