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I’d care about this if I was selling in India or Africa. If I’m selling to cash cows in America or Europe it’s not an issue at all. As long as you have >10mbp

I’d care about this if I was selling in India or Africa. If I’m selling to cash cows in America or Europe it’s not an issue at all. As long as you have >10mbps download across 90% of users I think it’s better to think about making money. Besides if you don’t know that lazy loading exists in 2025 fire yourself lol.

jofzar 1y ago
It really depends on who your clients are and where they are. https://www.mcmaster.com/ https://www.mcmaster.com/ was found last year to be doing some real magic to make it load literally as fast as possible for the crapiest computers possible.
- kosolam 1y ago
  The site is very fast indeed
  - actionfromafar 1y ago
    I want to buy fasteners now.
    - kosolam 1y ago
      Fasterners, as fast as possible
- A_D_E_P_T 1y ago
  Do you have any idea what they actually did? It would be interesting to study. That site really is blazing fast.
  - gbuk2013 1y ago
    Quick look: GSLB (via Akamai) for low latency, tricks like using CSS sprite to serve a single image in place of 20 or so for fewer round-trips, heavy use of caching, possibly some service worker magic but I didn't dig that far. :) Basically, looks like someone deliberately did many right things without being lazy or cheap to create a performant web site.
  - _nivlac_ 1y ago
    I am SO glad jofzar posted this - I remember this website but couldn't recall the company name. Here's a good video on how the site is so fast, from a frontend perspective: https://youtu.be/-Ln-8QM8KhQ https://youtu.be/-Ln-8QM8KhQ
  - theandrewbailey 1y ago
    I was intrigued that they request pages in the background on mouse-over, then swap on click. I decided to do likewise on my blog, since my pages are about a dozen kb of HTML, and I aggressively cache things.
xrisk 1y ago
I think you’d be surprised to learn that Indian mobile speeds are pretty fast, at 133 mbps median. Ranked 26th in the world (https://www.speedtest.net/global-index#mobile https://www.speedtest.net/global-index#mobile).
- hyperbrainer 1y ago
  And in the last few years, access has grown tremendously, a big part of which has been Jio's aggressive push with ultra-cheap plans.
flohofwoe 1y ago
I wouldn't be surprised if many '3rd world' countries have better average internet speeds than some developed countries by leapfrogging older 'good enough' tech that's still dominating in the developed countries, e.g. I've been on a 16 MBit connection in Germany for a long time simply because it was mostly good enough for my internet consumption. One day my internet provider 'forcefully' upgraded me to 50 MBit because they didn't support 16 MBit anymore ;)
- mrweasel 1y ago
  For the longest time I tried arguing with my ISP that I only needed around 20Mbit. They did have a 50Mbit at the time, but the price difference between 50, 100 and 250 and meant that you basically got ripped off for anything but the 100Mbit. It's the same now, I can get 300Mbit, but the price difference between 300 and and 500 is to small to be viewed as an actual saving, similar, you can get 1000Mbit, but I don't need it and the price difference is to high.
mrweasel 1y ago
Hope you're not selling to the rural US then.
masklinn 1y ago
There's plenty of opportunities to have slow internet (and especially long roundtrips) in developed countries e.g. - rural location - roommate or sibling torrent-ing the shared connection into the ground - driving around on a road with spotty coverage - places with poor cellular coverage (some building styles are absolutely hell on cellular as well)

jofzar 1y ago

It really depends on who your clients are and where they are. https://www.mcmaster.com/ https://www.mcmaster.com/ was found last year to be doing some real magic to make it load literally as fast as possible for the crapiest computers possible.

kosolam 1y ago
The site is very fast indeed
- actionfromafar 1y ago
  I want to buy fasteners now.
  - kosolam 1y ago
    Fasterners, as fast as possible
A_D_E_P_T 1y ago
Do you have any idea what they actually did? It would be interesting to study. That site really is blazing fast.
- gbuk2013 1y ago
  Quick look: GSLB (via Akamai) for low latency, tricks like using CSS sprite to serve a single image in place of 20 or so for fewer round-trips, heavy use of caching, possibly some service worker magic but I didn't dig that far. :) Basically, looks like someone deliberately did many right things without being lazy or cheap to create a performant web site.
- _nivlac_ 1y ago
  I am SO glad jofzar posted this - I remember this website but couldn't recall the company name. Here's a good video on how the site is so fast, from a frontend perspective: https://youtu.be/-Ln-8QM8KhQ https://youtu.be/-Ln-8QM8KhQ
- theandrewbailey 1y ago
  I was intrigued that they request pages in the background on mouse-over, then swap on click. I decided to do likewise on my blog, since my pages are about a dozen kb of HTML, and I aggressively cache things.

xrisk 1y ago

I think you’d be surprised to learn that Indian mobile speeds are pretty fast, at 133 mbps median. Ranked 26th in the world (https://www.speedtest.net/global-index#mobile https://www.speedtest.net/global-index#mobile).

hyperbrainer 1y ago
And in the last few years, access has grown tremendously, a big part of which has been Jio's aggressive push with ultra-cheap plans.

flohofwoe 1y ago

I wouldn't be surprised if many '3rd world' countries have better average internet speeds than some developed countries by leapfrogging older 'good enough' tech that's still dominating in the developed countries, e.g. I've been on a 16 MBit connection in Germany for a long time simply because it was mostly good enough for my internet consumption. One day my internet provider 'forcefully' upgraded me to 50 MBit because they didn't support 16 MBit anymore ;)

mrweasel 1y ago
For the longest time I tried arguing with my ISP that I only needed around 20Mbit. They did have a 50Mbit at the time, but the price difference between 50, 100 and 250 and meant that you basically got ripped off for anything but the 100Mbit. It's the same now, I can get 300Mbit, but the price difference between 300 and and 500 is to small to be viewed as an actual saving, similar, you can get 1000Mbit, but I don't need it and the price difference is to high.

mrweasel 1y ago

Hope you're not selling to the rural US then.

masklinn 1y ago

There's plenty of opportunities to have slow internet (and especially long roundtrips) in developed countries e.g. - rural location - roommate or sibling torrent-ing the shared connection into the ground - driving around on a road with spotty coverage - places with poor cellular coverage (some building styles are absolutely hell on cellular as well)