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>> a legitimate, if incremental, step forward in developer productivity It’s not incremental it’s revolutionary. Nothing has come before that has such power an

>> a legitimate, if incremental, step forward in developer productivity It’s not incremental it’s revolutionary. Nothing has come before that has such power and capability.

kryptiskt 1y ago
So where is the product? Why haven't the vibecoders built a browser or a kernel or anything remotely ambitious? They have had years at this point. With their fabled productivity increase, making a better kernel than Linux in that time should be child's play. So where is it?
- andrewstuart 1y ago
  AI is an assistant not a magician.
  - ath3nd 1y ago
    So where is the revolution then? How can it be both a revolution and not a magician at the same time? At the same time when studies are coming out that experienced developers are losing 19% of productivity using AI tools, it makes me question whether it's not a devolution. Especially considering how widely unprofitable is for Claude to be run at scale where it's at least a net neutral for the average dev, where is that revolution you are talking about? Is it the same revolution like NFts or blockhain or whatever web3 was, cause I am still waiting for those?
- djohnston 1y ago
  Why are you conflating people who use LLMs to work more efficiently with vibe-coding shills? Real engineers only write in assembly right? Lol. It’s giving anxiety.
alpaca128 1y ago
Then why are AI-based contributions in the open source space generally so low quality that they get rejected, while the biggest observable effect of big tech investments is the addition of AI buttons everywhere that sometimes don't even do anything other than annoy users? Aside from AI-powered tech support leading to loss of customers and reputation, see Cursor AI. If it's revolutionary as you say, why are companies laying off people when higher productivity per employee should mean that more employees increase the advantage from AI? Why aren't early adopters running circles around competitors and producing larger, more frequent and/or higher quality updates and products in a measurable way?

>> a legitimate, if incremental, step forward in developer productivity It’s not incremental it’s revolutionary. Nothing has come before that has such power and capability.

kryptiskt 1y ago

So where is the product? Why haven't the vibecoders built a browser or a kernel or anything remotely ambitious? They have had years at this point. With their fabled productivity increase, making a better kernel than Linux in that time should be child's play. So where is it?

andrewstuart 1y ago
AI is an assistant not a magician.
- ath3nd 1y ago
  So where is the revolution then? How can it be both a revolution and not a magician at the same time? At the same time when studies are coming out that experienced developers are losing 19% of productivity using AI tools, it makes me question whether it's not a devolution. Especially considering how widely unprofitable is for Claude to be run at scale where it's at least a net neutral for the average dev, where is that revolution you are talking about? Is it the same revolution like NFts or blockhain or whatever web3 was, cause I am still waiting for those?
djohnston 1y ago
Why are you conflating people who use LLMs to work more efficiently with vibe-coding shills? Real engineers only write in assembly right? Lol. It’s giving anxiety.

alpaca128 1y ago

Then why are AI-based contributions in the open source space generally so low quality that they get rejected, while the biggest observable effect of big tech investments is the addition of AI buttons everywhere that sometimes don't even do anything other than annoy users? Aside from AI-powered tech support leading to loss of customers and reputation, see Cursor AI. If it's revolutionary as you say, why are companies laying off people when higher productivity per employee should mean that more employees increase the advantage from AI? Why aren't early adopters running circles around competitors and producing larger, more frequent and/or higher quality updates and products in a measurable way?