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I have learned that number one rule of working in a corporation is "do not offend people". You can explain away a major delay. You can explain away an incident.

I have learned that number one rule of working in a corporation is "do not offend people". You can explain away a major delay. You can explain away an incident. You can explain away a project not being delivered at all. You can explain away all and any failure, but if you offend someone, you have a big problem. People's egos are extremely fragile, and it makes zero sense to risk even tiniest chance of conflict, unless your very job is at stake. Seeing someone value a serious project higher than random guy's personal feelings is extremely refreshing. > But you don't need to be mean You don't need to be nice either

andrewflnr 1y ago
> You don't need to be nice either. ...right, mostly. Being nice is nice, but the truth is more important. A corporation that could figure that out would run far better.
- _nalply 1y ago
  Maybe. Maybe not. Given the human material (yes I know a dehumanizing formulation, but that's what Corporate does) it seems it's better not to step on anybody's toes except if it's abundantly clear that the person doesn't have a voice in things, but even then it's risky. Corporate is self-selecting: companies that don't generate profit die off sooner or later. Therefore we can conclude (if a bit shakily) from the norm in Corporate not to insult anybody that internal strife has been very damaging and therefore that Corporate self-selects in an evolutionary manner to avoid anything that leads to internal strife.
  - andrewflnr 1y ago
    That's giving evolution far too much credit. The same logic would tell you the appendix has some secret critical function.
    - _alternator_ 1y ago
      It does. The appendix is probably a reservoir for repopulating your microbiome with a “backup copy” after particularly nasty stomach bugs. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12128343/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12128343/
      - andrewflnr 1y ago
        I know. I said critical function for a reason. If you can remove it, it's not critical. The point is, "but evolution" is a weak argument to justify any particular feature of an entity facing selection pressure. The laryngeal nerve detour would have been a better example but I wanted to stay accessible.
  - anal_reactor 1y ago
    I wouldn't say it has a good function on its own, but rather it's a mitigation strategy. People's fragile egos are a fact and this is not going to change anytime soon. So if you want to have a big organization, eventually you'll need to accommodate those who can't tolerate anything even remotely offending. Only organizations that aren't focused on growth can afford having a personality.
    - andrewflnr 1y ago
      > eventually you'll need to accommodate those who can't tolerate anything even remotely offending. Nah, I don't want these people in my company. Speaking specifically, to be clear, of people who can't tolerate polite, precise correction. If I can't find enough reasonable people to grow, then that's fine. But honestly I think there are fewer of those people than you might think, given the right environment where (among other psychological safety factors) being proven wrong is fine and normal and genuinely does not require a counter attack.
tempnew 1y ago
Should isn’t must.

andrewflnr 1y ago

> You don't need to be nice either. ...right, mostly. Being nice is nice, but the truth is more important. A corporation that could figure that out would run far better.

_nalply 1y ago
Maybe. Maybe not. Given the human material (yes I know a dehumanizing formulation, but that's what Corporate does) it seems it's better not to step on anybody's toes except if it's abundantly clear that the person doesn't have a voice in things, but even then it's risky. Corporate is self-selecting: companies that don't generate profit die off sooner or later. Therefore we can conclude (if a bit shakily) from the norm in Corporate not to insult anybody that internal strife has been very damaging and therefore that Corporate self-selects in an evolutionary manner to avoid anything that leads to internal strife.
- andrewflnr 1y ago
  That's giving evolution far too much credit. The same logic would tell you the appendix has some secret critical function.
  - _alternator_ 1y ago
    It does. The appendix is probably a reservoir for repopulating your microbiome with a “backup copy” after particularly nasty stomach bugs. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12128343/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12128343/
    - andrewflnr 1y ago
      I know. I said critical function for a reason. If you can remove it, it's not critical. The point is, "but evolution" is a weak argument to justify any particular feature of an entity facing selection pressure. The laryngeal nerve detour would have been a better example but I wanted to stay accessible.
- anal_reactor 1y ago
  I wouldn't say it has a good function on its own, but rather it's a mitigation strategy. People's fragile egos are a fact and this is not going to change anytime soon. So if you want to have a big organization, eventually you'll need to accommodate those who can't tolerate anything even remotely offending. Only organizations that aren't focused on growth can afford having a personality.
  - andrewflnr 1y ago
    > eventually you'll need to accommodate those who can't tolerate anything even remotely offending. Nah, I don't want these people in my company. Speaking specifically, to be clear, of people who can't tolerate polite, precise correction. If I can't find enough reasonable people to grow, then that's fine. But honestly I think there are fewer of those people than you might think, given the right environment where (among other psychological safety factors) being proven wrong is fine and normal and genuinely does not require a counter attack.

tempnew 1y ago

Should isn’t must.