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I mean I wouldn't do business with them, I think the supplements industry is infrastructure for grifters, quacks, and pyramid schemes to fleece the desperate, b

I mean I wouldn't do business with them, I think the supplements industry is infrastructure for grifters, quacks, and pyramid schemes to fleece the desperate, but what's the problem for Visa? Is it a brand safety thing? My presumption would be that payment processors are amoral and have no problem processing payments for Consolidated Baby Kickers if it were legal to do so, is that a misconception?

cperciva 1y ago
"Not as advertised" chargebacks. That industry is also full of subscription scams (e.g. someone thinks they're ordering a supplement for $5.99, but they're actually getting signed up for $39.99/month...).
- tptacek 1y ago
  Also the products don't work!
  - cperciva 1y ago
    I don't think the credit card networks would care about that if it weren't for the risk of chargebacks. Credit card networks have no problem with processing payments for churches!
    - tptacek 1y ago
      Right, no, I'm just saying: that drives a lot of chargebacks.
- SXX 1y ago
  > That industry is also full of subscription scams Visa / MC are the ones who enable subscription scams and benefit from them. They implemented "convinience" option of "updating" your credit card data with replacement card. So even if you cancel and replace card charges continue to pass. They also totally able to see all the places where your card been tokenised, but they dont push banks to expose this to you.
  - cperciva 1y ago
    In Canada at least, you can opt out of having your new card number shared when you replace a card.