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A good example of how this can end up with negative outcomes is the cookie directive, which is how we ended up with cookie consent popovers on every website tha
by marginalia_nu 1y ago
A good example of how this can end up with negative outcomes is the cookie directive, which is how we ended up with cookie consent popovers on every website that does absolutely nothing to prevent tracking and has only amounted to making lives more frustrating in the EU and abroad.
It was a decade too late and written by people who were incredibly out of touch with the actual problem. The GDPR is a bit better, but it's still a far bigger nuisance for regular European citizens than the companies that still largely unhindered track and profile the same.
- zizee 1y agoSo because sometimes a regulation misses the mark, governments should not try to regulate?
- JumpCrisscross 1y agoI think OP is criticising blindly trusting the regulation hits the mark because Meta is mad about it. Zuckerberg can be a bastard and correctly call out a burdensome law.
- marginalia_nu 1y agoWell, pragmatically, I'd say no. We must judge regulations not by the well wishes and intentions behind them but the actual outcomes they have. These regulations affect people, jobs and lives. The odds of the EU actually hitting a useful mark with these types of regulations, given their technical illiteracy, it's is just astronomically unlikely.
- RandomThoughts3 1y ago[dead]
- plopilop 1y agoCookie consent popovers were the deliberate decisions of company to create the worst possible compliance. A much simpler one could have been to stop tracking users especially when it is not their primary business. Newer regulations also mandate that "reject all cookies" should be a one click action but surprisingly compliance is low. Once again, the enemy of the customer here is the company, not the eu regulation.
- ChadNauseam 1y agoI don’t believe that every website has colluded to give themselves a horrible user experience in some kind of mass protest against the GDPR. My guess is that companies are acting in their interests, which is exactly what I expect them to do and if the EU is not capable of figuring out what that will look like then it is a valid criticism of their ability to make regulations
- 1718627440 1y agoYet that user interface is against the law and enforcing the GDPR would improve it.
- plopilop 1y agoWebsites use ready-to be used cookie banners provider by their advertisers. Who have all the incentive to make the process as painful as possible unless you click "accept", and essentially followed the model that Facebook pioneered. And since most people click on accept, websites don't really care either.
- cultureswitch 1y agoWhat makes you think the regulators didn't predict the outcome? Of course the business which depend on harvesting data will do anything they can to continue harvesting data. The regulation just makes that require consent. This is good. If businesses are intent to keep on harvesting data by using dark patterns to obtain "consent", these businesses should either die or change. This is good.
- eastbound 1y agoPerfect example of regulation shaping a market. And succeeding at only ill results.
- thrance 1y agoBad argument, the solution is not to not regulate, it's to make a new law mandating companies to make cookies opt-in behind a menu that can't be a banner. And if this somehow backfires too, we go again. Giving up is not the solution to the privacy crisis.