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It’s just an example. The EU has often, and often successfully, pushed for standardisation to the benefit of end users.

by 9dev 1y ago

Alupis 1y ago
Which... has the consequences of stifling innovation. Regulations/policy is two-way street. Who's to say USB-C is the end-all-be-all connector? We're happy with it today, but Apple's Lightning connector had merit. What if two new, competing connectors come out in a few year's time? The EU regulation, as-is, simply will not allow a new technically superior connector to enter the market. Fast forward a decade when USB-C is dead, EU will keep it limping along - stifling more innovation along the way. Standardization like this is difficult to achieve via consensus - but via policy/regulation? These are the same governing bodies that hardly understand technology/internet. Normally standardization is achieved via two (or more) competing standards where one eventually "wins" via adoption. Well intentioned, but with negative side-effects.
- sensanaty 1y ago
  If the industry comes out with a new, better connector, they can use it, as long as they also provide USB-C ports. If enough of them collectively decide the new one is superior, then they can start using that port in favor of USB-C altogether. The EU says nothing about USB-C being the bestest and greatest, they only say that companies have to come to a consensus and have to have 1 port that is shared between all devices for the sake of consumers. I personally much prefer USB-C over the horrid clusterfuck of proprietary cables that weren't compatible with one another, that's for sure.
  - rockemsockem 1y ago
    "the industry" If one company does though they're basically screwed as I understand it.....
- troupo 1y ago
  > The EU regulation, as-is, simply will not allow a new technically superior connector to enter the market. As in: the EU regulation literally addresses this. You'd know it if you didn't blindly repeat uneducated talking points by others who are as clueless as you are. > Standardization like this is difficult to achieve via consensus - but via policy/regulation? In the ancient times of 15 or so years ago every manufacturer had their own connector incompatible with each other. There would often be connectors incompatible with each other within a single manufacturer's product range. The EU said: settle on a single connector voluntarily, or else. At the time the industry settled on micro-USB and started working on USB-C. Hell, even Power Delivery wasn't standardized until USB-C. Consensus doesn't always work. Often you do need government intervention.

It’s just an example. The EU has often, and often successfully, pushed for standardisation to the benefit of end users.

by 9dev 1y ago

It’s just an example. The EU has often, and often successfully, pushed for standardisation to the benefit of end users.

Which... has the consequences of stifling innovation. Regulations/policy is two-way street. Who's to say USB-C is the end-all-be-all connector? We're happy with it today, but Apple's Lightning connector had merit. What if two new, competing connectors come out in a few year's time? The EU regulation, as-is, simply will not allow a new technically superior connector to enter the market. Fast forward a decade when USB-C is dead, EU will keep it limping along - stifling more innovation along the way. Standardization like this is difficult to achieve via consensus - but via policy/regulation? These are the same governing bodies that hardly understand technology/internet. Normally standardization is achieved via two (or more) competing standards where one eventually "wins" via adoption. Well intentioned, but with negative side-effects.

sensanaty 1y ago
If the industry comes out with a new, better connector, they can use it, as long as they also provide USB-C ports. If enough of them collectively decide the new one is superior, then they can start using that port in favor of USB-C altogether. The EU says nothing about USB-C being the bestest and greatest, they only say that companies have to come to a consensus and have to have 1 port that is shared between all devices for the sake of consumers. I personally much prefer USB-C over the horrid clusterfuck of proprietary cables that weren't compatible with one another, that's for sure.
- rockemsockem 1y ago
  "the industry" If one company does though they're basically screwed as I understand it.....
troupo 1y ago
> The EU regulation, as-is, simply will not allow a new technically superior connector to enter the market. As in: the EU regulation literally addresses this. You'd know it if you didn't blindly repeat uneducated talking points by others who are as clueless as you are. > Standardization like this is difficult to achieve via consensus - but via policy/regulation? In the ancient times of 15 or so years ago every manufacturer had their own connector incompatible with each other. There would often be connectors incompatible with each other within a single manufacturer's product range. The EU said: settle on a single connector voluntarily, or else. At the time the industry settled on micro-USB and started working on USB-C. Hell, even Power Delivery wasn't standardized until USB-C. Consensus doesn't always work. Often you do need government intervention.