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The new Beeper – mostly on-device withe full E2EE

13 points by fariszr 1y ago

theothertimcook 1y ago
Beeper is so cool, being able to dump every chat app into one app and receive messages from meta platforms without having their apps installed is very handy. Meta did boot me out of messenger recently and said I can’t use 3rd party tools to access their services or something which was annoying. As I started the process for logging back into the messenger account I stopped and uninstalled beeper, not because it’s not awesome but because it made me realise all these chat platforms are just noise,
- hammyhavoc 1y ago
  Never have issues with the likes of Meta when self-hosting bridges for Matrix. Beeper's centralisation is likely the issue.
  - bzmrgonz 1y ago
    How long you been running these bridges??
    - hammyhavoc 1y ago
      Years at this point. Was a major advantage to using Matrix over pretty much anything else as I wanted a unified messaging system that I could self-host.
      - bzmrgonz 1y ago
        awesome, I too looked at this as a possible open source omni-channel platform. Essentially give retail companies one unified platform for their customer service people to engage customers and be able to elevate chats and invite peers and supervisors to resolve issues. I didnt pursue it, but I had it all built in my head, once I learned about channel bridges :-D. Since you did get your hands dirty, do you think this is possible? retail company plugging whatsapp/messenger/insta messenger/webchat/sms/pbx/imessenger/etc.??? (I think those would cover 99 percent of customers.
Waraqa 1y ago
How is it possible to use a 3rd party app for closed protocols like WhatsApp? Is this legal? or they got special licenses that allow them to do it?
- hammyhavoc 1y ago
  https://engineering.fb.com/2024/03/06/security/whatsapp-messenger-messaging-interoperability-eu/?ref=element.io https://engineering.fb.com/2024/03/06/security/whatsapp-mess...
- fariszr 1y ago
  Reverse engineering.

3 ms·

The new Beeper – mostly on-device withe full E2EE

13 points by fariszr 1y ago

theothertimcook 1y ago
Beeper is so cool, being able to dump every chat app into one app and receive messages from meta platforms without having their apps installed is very handy. Meta did boot me out of messenger recently and said I can’t use 3rd party tools to access their services or something which was annoying. As I started the process for logging back into the messenger account I stopped and uninstalled beeper, not because it’s not awesome but because it made me realise all these chat platforms are just noise,
- hammyhavoc 1y ago
  Never have issues with the likes of Meta when self-hosting bridges for Matrix. Beeper's centralisation is likely the issue.
  - bzmrgonz 1y ago
    How long you been running these bridges??
    - hammyhavoc 1y ago
      Years at this point. Was a major advantage to using Matrix over pretty much anything else as I wanted a unified messaging system that I could self-host.
      - bzmrgonz 1y ago
        awesome, I too looked at this as a possible open source omni-channel platform. Essentially give retail companies one unified platform for their customer service people to engage customers and be able to elevate chats and invite peers and supervisors to resolve issues. I didnt pursue it, but I had it all built in my head, once I learned about channel bridges :-D. Since you did get your hands dirty, do you think this is possible? retail company plugging whatsapp/messenger/insta messenger/webchat/sms/pbx/imessenger/etc.??? (I think those would cover 99 percent of customers.
Waraqa 1y ago
How is it possible to use a 3rd party app for closed protocols like WhatsApp? Is this legal? or they got special licenses that allow them to do it?
- hammyhavoc 1y ago
  https://engineering.fb.com/2024/03/06/security/whatsapp-messenger-messaging-interoperability-eu/?ref=element.io https://engineering.fb.com/2024/03/06/security/whatsapp-mess...
- fariszr 1y ago
  Reverse engineering.