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District judge pretrial ruling on June 25th, I'd be surprised this doesn't get challenged soon in higher courts. And acquiring the copyrighted materials is sti
by dmbche 1y ago
District judge pretrial ruling on June 25th, I'd be surprised this doesn't get challenged soon in higher courts.
And acquiring the copyrighted materials is still illegal - this is not a blanket protection for all AI training on copyrighted materials
- rpdillon 1y agoWhy is acquiring copyrighted materials illegal? You can just buy books in bulk under the first sale doctrine and scan them.
- dmbche 1y agoWhich is not what any of the companies did Anthropic ALSO get copyrighted material legally, but they pirated massive amounts first
- rpdillon 1y agoApologies, I read your original statement as somehow concluding that you couldn't train an AI legally. I just wanted to make it extra clear that based on current legal precedent in the U.S., you absolutely can. Methodology matters, though.
- thewebguyd 1y agoEven if it gets challenged successfully (and tbh I hope it does), the damage is already done. Blocking it at this stage just pulls up the ladder behind the behemoths. Unless the courts are willing to put injunctions on any model that made use of illegally obtained copyrighted material - which would pretty much be all of them.
- 1718627440 1y agoBut a ruling can determine that the results of the violation needs to be destroyed.
- zettabomb 1y agoAnthropic bought millions of books and scanned them, meaning that (at least for those sources) they were legally obtained. There has also been rampant piracy used to obtain similar material, which I won't defend. But it's not an absolute - training can be done on legally acquired material.