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Asians are 7% of the US population and above 30% of the engineering workforce at most tech companies. So either Asians are just extremely genetically/culturally

Asians are 7% of the US population and above 30% of the engineering workforce at most tech companies. So either Asians are just extremely genetically/culturally superior somehow (which seems unlikely given the state of the software industry in most of their countries) or something is going on.

lisbbb 1y ago
Oddly, over a 25 year period, I worked with far fewer Asians than I did Indians. India has to be the #1 supplier of H1Bs to the US, hands down. I'm not sure I can assess how the average Asian software developer did compared to Indian ones since the sample size was so skewed for me. Maybe on the coasts it was different? I look at Japan as a nation that has its crap together, but they also have terrible work/life balance that has now led to massive depopulation. It's like every race has its own particular blind spots.
maest 1y ago
> something is going on Many things could be going on. You should propose a concrete explanation instead of some vague "something is going on" placeholder which could uncharitably be described as dog-whistling. For example, consider that leaving one's country is difficult and, so, the distribution is skewed towards individuals with higher skill and talent. I'm not saying that is the only effect at play here. My point is there are many effects and a lazy "something is going on" statement does nothing to understand that complexity.
- msgodel 1y ago
  You pretty clearly don't want to hear my concrete explanation. I'm not sure yours fully accounts for what's happening there. It's pretty extreme especially when there's a large pool of unemployed talent in the US.
  - maest 1y ago
    > You pretty clearly don't want to hear my concrete explanation. Not sure where you got that from. I am clearly calling for a concrete explanation. > I'm not sure yours fully accounts for what's happening there. Yes, my explanation is also bad because this is a multidimensional problem and I was only pointing out one possible effect.

lisbbb 1y ago

Oddly, over a 25 year period, I worked with far fewer Asians than I did Indians. India has to be the #1 supplier of H1Bs to the US, hands down. I'm not sure I can assess how the average Asian software developer did compared to Indian ones since the sample size was so skewed for me. Maybe on the coasts it was different? I look at Japan as a nation that has its crap together, but they also have terrible work/life balance that has now led to massive depopulation. It's like every race has its own particular blind spots.

maest 1y ago

> something is going on Many things could be going on. You should propose a concrete explanation instead of some vague "something is going on" placeholder which could uncharitably be described as dog-whistling. For example, consider that leaving one's country is difficult and, so, the distribution is skewed towards individuals with higher skill and talent. I'm not saying that is the only effect at play here. My point is there are many effects and a lazy "something is going on" statement does nothing to understand that complexity.

msgodel 1y ago
You pretty clearly don't want to hear my concrete explanation. I'm not sure yours fully accounts for what's happening there. It's pretty extreme especially when there's a large pool of unemployed talent in the US.
- maest 1y ago
  > You pretty clearly don't want to hear my concrete explanation. Not sure where you got that from. I am clearly calling for a concrete explanation. > I'm not sure yours fully accounts for what's happening there. Yes, my explanation is also bad because this is a multidimensional problem and I was only pointing out one possible effect.