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It wasn't until recently that I found out 40% of students at top colleges were not even American! I'm not specifically against foreign students, but 40%? That

It wasn't until recently that I found out 40% of students at top colleges were not even American! I'm not specifically against foreign students, but 40%? That and the H1B issue and American's not having jobs at American companies. Something isn't right.

Ar-Curunir 1y ago
Yes that something is the rapidly vanishing government funding for public universities.
- lisbbb 1y ago
  I'm all for doing anything funding-wise that brings higher ed back to some kind of reality, even if we have to burn it all down to get there. The cost of education is outrageous and grads are not benefitting from their degrees the same way I was able to (at far less cost). We're at the inflection point there.
OkayPhysicist 1y ago
That comes with the territory of have the vast majority of the top universities in the world. One of the things that has kept the US as the global hegemon for the last 100 years is the fact that every other country sends their best and brightest to study here, and a significant fraction of those people stay here to work. I agree the US could do more to take advantage of its position to benefit the average American, but torching exactly what put the country in that position is short-sighted at best, categorically stupid at worst.
- FuriouslyAdrift 1y ago
  Colleges and Universities charge the non-local rate for international students which is considerably higher than the domestic rate (example from Georgia Tech: In state $30,154 Out of state $53,638 International $54,814 This incentivizes them to keep more slots open for those high dollar students making it even tougher to develop a domestic workforce.
  - OkayPhysicist 1y ago
    Another way of looking at those numbers is that the out of state / international students are subsidizing the education of the locals. AS long as local governments keep up pressure on the universities to not go 100% out of state, then it's by and large a win-win.
- lisbbb 1y ago
  That's great, but we're not doing enough for our own citizens at this point in time.
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Ar-Curunir 1y ago

Yes that something is the rapidly vanishing government funding for public universities.

lisbbb 1y ago
I'm all for doing anything funding-wise that brings higher ed back to some kind of reality, even if we have to burn it all down to get there. The cost of education is outrageous and grads are not benefitting from their degrees the same way I was able to (at far less cost). We're at the inflection point there.

OkayPhysicist 1y ago

That comes with the territory of have the vast majority of the top universities in the world. One of the things that has kept the US as the global hegemon for the last 100 years is the fact that every other country sends their best and brightest to study here, and a significant fraction of those people stay here to work. I agree the US could do more to take advantage of its position to benefit the average American, but torching exactly what put the country in that position is short-sighted at best, categorically stupid at worst.

FuriouslyAdrift 1y ago
Colleges and Universities charge the non-local rate for international students which is considerably higher than the domestic rate (example from Georgia Tech: In state $30,154 Out of state $53,638 International $54,814 This incentivizes them to keep more slots open for those high dollar students making it even tougher to develop a domestic workforce.
- OkayPhysicist 1y ago
  Another way of looking at those numbers is that the out of state / international students are subsidizing the education of the locals. AS long as local governments keep up pressure on the universities to not go 100% out of state, then it's by and large a win-win.
lisbbb 1y ago
That's great, but we're not doing enough for our own citizens at this point in time.

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