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It is not greedy to try to create a more circular system where waste products are reused

by kzrdude 1y ago

jonplackett 1y ago
It is if those waste products are drastically cheaper than what you should be using
- marky1991 1y ago
  Why? Are you saying we should only do waste reduction if it's expensive? "Should" here is doing a lot of work, it makes the argument circular imo.
  - arbitrary_name 1y ago
    We should only do waste reduction if it doesn't result in wide scale poisoning of aquifers and biomes. Does that sound more agreeable?
    - marky1991 1y ago
      Yeah, that position makes sense.
andrewstuart 1y ago
Keep toxins out of landfill at any possible cost no matter how high, including poisoning ourselves. Landfill is precious and sacred and must not be used.
- sandy_coyote 1y ago
  The problem is not that people disagree with this, it's that people didn't know about the presence of these chemicals in biosolids until recently.
  - andrewstuart 1y ago
    We have a general problem in our society in which people are desperate to NOT put stuff in landfill, and fail to realize that stuff is toxic and should not be reused. It should be thrown away. “We didn’t know that used stuff was toxic.” Does not hold as an argument because stuff for recycling is often toxic it’s something we know, everyone should know, it’s obvious, assume it, don’t keep coming back saying “hey didn’t realize this or that was toxic and should be in landfill instead of recycled”. Don’t recycle plastic and paper and use it for food and drink. Don’t recycle car tires into roads and playgrounds and later realize they leach microplastics and are cancer causing. We need to stop recycling toxic shit then saying “we didn’t know”.
    - Nifty3929 1y ago
      Landfills are remarkably environmentally friendly and safe, with plenty, plenty of room. Landfills are a GREAT place to put things we don't want to use anymore. Recycling is nice too, if it works out, which isn't as often as we'd like to think.
- Nifty3929 1y ago
  I don't think your sarcasm was picked up here :-)

It is not greedy to try to create a more circular system where waste products are reused

jonplackett 1y ago

It is if those waste products are drastically cheaper than what you should be using

marky1991 1y ago
Why? Are you saying we should only do waste reduction if it's expensive? "Should" here is doing a lot of work, it makes the argument circular imo.
- arbitrary_name 1y ago
  We should only do waste reduction if it doesn't result in wide scale poisoning of aquifers and biomes. Does that sound more agreeable?
  - marky1991 1y ago
    Yeah, that position makes sense.

andrewstuart 1y ago

Keep toxins out of landfill at any possible cost no matter how high, including poisoning ourselves. Landfill is precious and sacred and must not be used.

sandy_coyote 1y ago
The problem is not that people disagree with this, it's that people didn't know about the presence of these chemicals in biosolids until recently.
- andrewstuart 1y ago
  We have a general problem in our society in which people are desperate to NOT put stuff in landfill, and fail to realize that stuff is toxic and should not be reused. It should be thrown away. “We didn’t know that used stuff was toxic.” Does not hold as an argument because stuff for recycling is often toxic it’s something we know, everyone should know, it’s obvious, assume it, don’t keep coming back saying “hey didn’t realize this or that was toxic and should be in landfill instead of recycled”. Don’t recycle plastic and paper and use it for food and drink. Don’t recycle car tires into roads and playgrounds and later realize they leach microplastics and are cancer causing. We need to stop recycling toxic shit then saying “we didn’t know”.
  - Nifty3929 1y ago
    Landfills are remarkably environmentally friendly and safe, with plenty, plenty of room. Landfills are a GREAT place to put things we don't want to use anymore. Recycling is nice too, if it works out, which isn't as often as we'd like to think.
Nifty3929 1y ago
I don't think your sarcasm was picked up here :-)