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What’s on offer at a luxury Bay Area longevity clinic
- randycupertino 1y agohttps://archive.ph/WYxYl https://archive.ph/WYxYl
- rafaelreinert 1y agothanks, We need more people like you.
- Razengan 1y agoCan't help but imagine/expect a future where the greediest and most tyrannic people live practically indefinitely, protected by swarms of AI drones.. You can bet at least some of them are thinking about this too
- eloisant 1y agoAltered Carbon
- accrual 1y agoGreat show! Worth a watch for anyone into live action cyberpunk.
- bwb 1y agoGreat book first, the book is far better than the show :) (and I liked the show).
- BurningFrog 1y agoTruly great on so many levels. The second season is best avoided though.
- accrual 1y agoYeah, I had a tough time getting into the second season. Joel Kinnaman was really great in the first season though.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 1y agoThey should read about the 14th century peasant revolts that make ISIS look tame in comparison.
- maerF0x0 1y agoWhat makes you assume that greediest and tyrannical people are the ones who would be preferentially selected for in a system that offers increased healthspan / lifespan? It's my presumption that these services are expensive now but once proven will become commodity. In sufficient time it would be as cheap/free as penicillin or a multivitamin.
- gdbsjjdn 1y agoWho's getting these services now? The people with the most money. You can't just extrapolate any technology out and say "one day it'll be cheap", this is a labour-intensive process. MRI machines are not getting Moore's Lawed
- htss2013 1y agoWhat is the fundamental reason why MRI machines could not be produced in higher quantities at much cheaper unit costs?
- BizarroLand 1y agoDemand. When the first 5,000 units cost a mil a piece, few manufacturers are going to go all in, especially when a product improvement could make their systems obsolete before they're finished being built. If you had a large country like china or the us or some other big baller walk in and say, "make 5,000 MRIs to these specs and we'll buy them" then by the end that manufacturer could quite possibly crank out another 5,000 for comparative pennies and flood the market, but until someone puts a few billion on the line it's not going to happen.
- LargoLasskhyfv 1y ago> MRI machines are not getting Moore's Lawed Are you sure about that? Commercial: https://hyperfine.io https://hyperfine.io 'DIY': https://hackaday.com/2015/05/04/hackaday-prize-entry-a-low-cost-open-source-mri/ https://hackaday.com/2015/05/04/hackaday-prize-entry-a-low-c... https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/building-an-mri-machine-(for-$100)/ https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/building-an-mri-machi... https://www.ismrm.org/22/program-files/ET-08.htm https://www.ismrm.org/22/program-files/ET-08.htm https://github.com/mri4all https://github.com/mri4all https://www.researchgate.net/publication/385920900_ezyMRI_How_to_build_an_MRI_machine_from_scratch_--_Experience_from_a_four-day_hackathon https://www.researchgate.net/publication/385920900_ezyMRI_Ho... ^^^^ Those actually aren't the ones I remembered, there was something in between that 'DIY' stuff, and the commercial thing a few years ago. ISTR also commercial, but slightly less bulky. But can't be bothered to search for that now. (Probably something related to https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rebco+mri https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rebco+mri ) There is also commercial mobile stuff for veterinary use.
- beAbU 1y agoThis is a common trope that's been covered by a few sci-fi creations I've consumed recently.
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- qoez 1y agoEveryone is complaining about boomers being selfish but just wait until longevity focused meglomaniac millenials are in power.
- BurningFrog 1y agoYou sound depressed. Might want to have that looked into. I'm only 25% being a jerk. That is how depression thinks and talks.
- Razengan 1y agoYou sound like a gaslighter. That is how gaslighters talk. But yeah I am depressed, cause I've seen and heard and read about too much shit. You've probably mostly been in a bubble that has had no reason to expect anything but the best outcomes of everything.
- brandonb 1y agoYou can get 90% of the benefit of these longevity clinics for 10% of the cost. First, advanced blood testing can cost <$200. Get ApoB and Lp(a) for heart health. hs-CRP for inflammation, A1c for diabetes, eGFR for kidney health, etc. https://www.empirical.health/product/comprehensive-health-panel https://www.empirical.health/product/comprehensive-health-pa... Then, determine your nutrition goals based on your blood test results. For example, if your ApoB / LDL cholesterol is high, focus on getting more fiber and less saturated fat. If blood pressure is high, focus on potassium and sodium. Exercise & sleep - use an Apple Watch or similar to track VO2Max and sleep stages. MRI - I'd probably skip the MRI for cancer screening. While I think this will be the future, the evidence base is just not strong enough today to know what to do with the results. You can do a FIT-based colon cancer screen at home for <$10 (colon cancer is affecting people at younger and younger ages). Mammography and cervical cancer testing in a regular doctor appointment. CAC scan (assessing calcium buildup in the arteries) - do if ApoB is high. You can book these for $200.
- iwontberude 1y agoI thought Apple Watch doesn’t have blood oxygen sensing anymore.
- brandonb 1y agoBlood oxygen sensing is disabled in the US (due to the patent lawsuit with Massimo), but it still estimates VO2Max and sleep stages. VO2Max is based on GPS and heart rate sensor measurements, processed by a deep learning algorithm that uses physiological ODEs (ordinary differential equations). Very cool algorithm. Apple Watch sleep stages (and sleep apnea detection) is based only on 3D accelerometer data.
- infecto 1y agoJust as an additional clarification. It’s only on new watches sold after that 2024 date. Only reason I have been reluctant to replace mine.
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- maerF0x0 1y agoI'm frequently frustrated by journalism on these topics which show their ignorance or just "not getting it". It's important to focus not just on lifespan, but healthspan. Even if I do not live a single year longer, improving the quality of those years is of value to me. There might even be some calculus underwhich its actually desirable to live a _shorter_ life but with far higher quality. Right now it sounds appealing to me if someone said "You'll only live to 85" (about a 2 year expected loss), "but you'll have the health of a 18-25 year old male for the entire time" ... And if it does enable longevity... Society has a lot of catching up to do, and a lot of ripple challenges to effect. Things like what happens when someone who looks 25 is actually 55? Who should they socially acceptably date? (~25 year olds? ~55 year olds who look 25? ~55 year olds who look 55?) What happens when your voter base has internalized values from far in the past? If we make someone live to 120, then we need to contend with values lasting for ~120 years, rather than dying off and being refreshed sooner.
- automatic6131 1y ago>Things like what happens when someone who looks 25 is actually 55? Who should they date? Genuinely, who cares about sci-fi questions like this? Why aren't you worrying about how fairly matching four-armed martial artists against two armed? Answer: because it's so unlikely to happen, it's not worth it. We're not getting 55 year olds with the body of a 25 year old, we're getting slim 55 year olds wearing make up and taking TRT. That's not youth! It's a dumb facsimile.
- sublinear 1y ago> Things like what happens when someone who looks 25 is actually 55? Who should they socially acceptably date? I don't know man. There are already plenty of 55 year olds dating 25 year olds right now regardless of looks. Also, not as extreme, but looking like you're in your 30s throughout most of your later adult life is not that uncommon nor difficult. Barring any health issues, that's where most people's looks stabilize.
- ninetyninenine 1y agoThere is a strong correlation between living longer and being healthier. So going for one you pretty much get the other for free.
- rafaelreinert 1y agosorry for how don't agree, but yearly full body mri should be mandatory for every >40 years. Ok, over treatment is a concert but any cancer is worst than it and basically most of people will have some cancer if live long enough. then if you have full body mri you will find most of the cancers on an early stage. Don't critics people that is doing it, but critics the system that don't provide it for every body.
- roywiggins 1y ago> there haven’t been studies weighing the benefits of full-body screening, Smith-Bindman said.
- accrual 1y agoI think the main problem is just that's expensive and time consuming to do full body MRIs, especially on everyone over age 40. The only person I know who gets a full-body MRI each year was my neurologist who had the resources to do it. There's only so many MRI machines in the world, staff to operate them, and radiologists to interpret the images. A limited study like an MRI of the brain might take a few minutes to read, but a whole body would take much longer. You may even want subspeciality doctors to read individual body parts (e.g. neuro, MSK) which would cost more and take longer. There's also the risk of finding something benign then putting the patient through treatment and surgery for something that wasn't harming them. If we could somehow have inexpensive scanners and an inexpensive way to interpret the resulting images - then yes, we should expand access to MRIs as they're a generally safe way to screen for abnormalities. AI interpretation could lower the cost of reading the images, but a lot of the expense is in the hugely complex scanner which requires liquid helium, etc. and the technologists to schedule and operate it.
- joshmarinacci 1y agoIf more people want MRIs then the market will create more machines. And hopefully the tech will improve over time, though we might be waiting for room temperature superconductors for real progress. Lack of staff to analyze the results is a problem, but not a huge one. Simply having a baseline to compare for later scans is valuable by itself, without any detailed analysis of the original.
- kridsdale1 1y agoMeasuring value in terms of GB per Dollar is ridiculous. An MRI produces many high resolution uncompressed images. Full bloodwork is a few kB but far more signal.
- danjl 1y agotl;dr; it's a spa for tech bros