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Anecdotally, I didn’t get severe anxiety and panic attacks until immediately after trying mushrooms. I didn’t even have a bad trip, but the next day something w

by mehphp 1y ago

Anecdotally, I didn’t get severe anxiety and panic attacks until immediately after trying mushrooms. I didn’t even have a bad trip, but the next day something was off and I never truly recovered from that.

krzat 1y ago
Psychodelics allow brain to change, but the change is not guaranteed to be positive.
- Trasmatta 1y ago
  Exactly. This is why I hate it when psychonauts push the "there are no bad trips" angle. It's a lie, and psychedelics can have a long lasting negative impact on the brain in some cases.
  - immibis 1y ago
    Following the logic, though, it could be undone with a positive experience on psychedelics...
    - Trasmatta 1y ago
      Or you could have further triggering experiences
      - immibis 1y ago
        I'd guess it falls in the category of "don't do that", along with things like using dd to overwrite your failing hard drive with a copy of your shiny new blank drive. You shouldn't take psychedelics therapeutically unless you're set up to have a good experience, I assume. (I've heard that expectation of your experience actually influences your experience a lot, so it could even be self-fulfilling!)
spiralcoaster 1y ago
I had this exact same experience. It felt like it opened the door to panic attacks, and I had a few of them in the years that followed.
selectodude 1y ago
I have way too much mental illness in my family to ever consider trying psychedelics.
- Joel_Mckay 1y ago
  In general, even with genetically inherited disorders your chances of developing most conditions drop from 54% to less than 18% in low stress environments. Epigenetics are weird, but if you are past 35 without symptoms than you should be fine without medication (know several people that weren't as lucky.) Stay healthy friend =3
  - landl0rd 1y ago
    “18% chance you go from depressed to schizophrenic” (in reality this risk is going to vary across a distribution of risk) is still not favorable odds the way I see it.
    - Joel_Mckay 1y ago
      I have a buddy that ended up in a ward, and still phones from time to time. The 3rd generation medications keep his cycles under control fairly well. Note, prior to being processed by our medical system. These same a--hole sycophantic dealers would target vulnerable people with BS treatments all the time. Talk with your doctor, get out for a walk every morning, and try out cognitive behavioral therapy when you are ready. =3 A funny post about what not to do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1mTELoj6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1mTELoj6o
      - landl0rd 1y ago
        I have a family member who has never been alright due to moderate psychedelic and heavy marijuana use in college. Maybe some people are fine, sure, and maybe this is even a rare outcome, but the denialism bothers me when I personally know that they can, at some unknown rate, turn someone schizophrenic and ruin his life. I wish we could get him treatment but he's not high-grade enough to be involuntarily committed but paranoid schizophrenics who hate and distrust their family don't respond well to "hey we should get you treatment." I have a friend from college who smoked too much marijuana during lockdown back in India. Thankfully the insanity cleared up after a few weeks to a month clean of it, but not all are so lucky. The denialism and propaganda campaigns bother me. As pro-legalization as I am, I personally have never and will never use drugs. They are dangerous and unnecessary, and I resent those who would influence others' decisions to do something high-risk and potentially very damaging because they want to get high.
n4r9 1y ago
Similar. Was over a decade ago. Not easy, but gradually gets better. Sorry to hear about it, it's not something I'd wish on anyone.
kbos87 1y ago
Yes, the one time I've tried mushrooms it was a very unpleasant experience. For weeks I was left feeling like I had done some permanent damage to my mental health. I eventually got past that feeling and there might be a point I try them again, but not without professional guidance. Psilocybin is powerful and not a remotely recreational thing (for me at least.)
- LakesAndTrees 1y ago
  The first time I tried them, it was like I peaked behind the “curtain” in the Wizard of Oz, and knew even in that moment I’d never be able to unsee or forget it. It was the equivalent of being a child and realizing Santa didn’t actually exist. Life as I had known it, the things that then animated me, were “shown” to be a pantomime - a joke. It was tremendously sad, and - for better or worse - I’ve never been the same since. Maybe it was a coming of age experience - something I would have more painfully experienced later anyway. But it cost something significant. It changed me. Still, some 25 years later, I don’t know if it was for the better.
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yieldcrv 1y ago
thanks for sharing that
throwmeaway222 1y ago
Thank you for posting this. While not everyone's experience is the same, after hearing all the hype I was inching closer to trying this... but this confirms that it's not a magic bullet and there are dangers. I don't have any specific mental issues right now, so there's also probably no reason to try it. The only thing I wish for, at 45 yo, is to have a faster to adapt mind like I had when I was younger.
- mehphp 1y ago
  Yes, it’s a roll of the dice which is unfortunate because it was actually pretty fun and a quite profound experience. I’m not saying people shouldn’t do it but just to proceed with caution and ideally under professional supervision.
andoando 1y ago
And I've gotten far worse effects from weed than shrooms or LCD weirdly enough.
superfrank 1y ago
I've did a bunch of recreational drugs growing up, but mushrooms were the only one that I swore off forever. It just didn't sit well with me and would lead to a ton of anxiety both during and after taking them. I think it's too easy for people to get caught up in the idea that these are miracle cures and forget that, just like with any drug, the effects will be different for different people. I'd love for it to be available for people who are seeing benefits, but I don't think there's any shame in people saying, "that doesn't work for me"

by mehphp 1y ago

krzat 1y ago

Psychodelics allow brain to change, but the change is not guaranteed to be positive.

Trasmatta 1y ago
Exactly. This is why I hate it when psychonauts push the "there are no bad trips" angle. It's a lie, and psychedelics can have a long lasting negative impact on the brain in some cases.
- immibis 1y ago
  Following the logic, though, it could be undone with a positive experience on psychedelics...
  - Trasmatta 1y ago
    Or you could have further triggering experiences
    - immibis 1y ago
      I'd guess it falls in the category of "don't do that", along with things like using dd to overwrite your failing hard drive with a copy of your shiny new blank drive. You shouldn't take psychedelics therapeutically unless you're set up to have a good experience, I assume. (I've heard that expectation of your experience actually influences your experience a lot, so it could even be self-fulfilling!)

spiralcoaster 1y ago

I had this exact same experience. It felt like it opened the door to panic attacks, and I had a few of them in the years that followed.

selectodude 1y ago

I have way too much mental illness in my family to ever consider trying psychedelics.

Joel_Mckay 1y ago
In general, even with genetically inherited disorders your chances of developing most conditions drop from 54% to less than 18% in low stress environments. Epigenetics are weird, but if you are past 35 without symptoms than you should be fine without medication (know several people that weren't as lucky.) Stay healthy friend =3
- landl0rd 1y ago
  “18% chance you go from depressed to schizophrenic” (in reality this risk is going to vary across a distribution of risk) is still not favorable odds the way I see it.
  - Joel_Mckay 1y ago
    I have a buddy that ended up in a ward, and still phones from time to time. The 3rd generation medications keep his cycles under control fairly well. Note, prior to being processed by our medical system. These same a--hole sycophantic dealers would target vulnerable people with BS treatments all the time. Talk with your doctor, get out for a walk every morning, and try out cognitive behavioral therapy when you are ready. =3 A funny post about what not to do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1mTELoj6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1mTELoj6o
    - landl0rd 1y ago
      I have a family member who has never been alright due to moderate psychedelic and heavy marijuana use in college. Maybe some people are fine, sure, and maybe this is even a rare outcome, but the denialism bothers me when I personally know that they can, at some unknown rate, turn someone schizophrenic and ruin his life. I wish we could get him treatment but he's not high-grade enough to be involuntarily committed but paranoid schizophrenics who hate and distrust their family don't respond well to "hey we should get you treatment." I have a friend from college who smoked too much marijuana during lockdown back in India. Thankfully the insanity cleared up after a few weeks to a month clean of it, but not all are so lucky. The denialism and propaganda campaigns bother me. As pro-legalization as I am, I personally have never and will never use drugs. They are dangerous and unnecessary, and I resent those who would influence others' decisions to do something high-risk and potentially very damaging because they want to get high.

n4r9 1y ago

Similar. Was over a decade ago. Not easy, but gradually gets better. Sorry to hear about it, it's not something I'd wish on anyone.

kbos87 1y ago

Yes, the one time I've tried mushrooms it was a very unpleasant experience. For weeks I was left feeling like I had done some permanent damage to my mental health. I eventually got past that feeling and there might be a point I try them again, but not without professional guidance. Psilocybin is powerful and not a remotely recreational thing (for me at least.)

LakesAndTrees 1y ago
The first time I tried them, it was like I peaked behind the “curtain” in the Wizard of Oz, and knew even in that moment I’d never be able to unsee or forget it. It was the equivalent of being a child and realizing Santa didn’t actually exist. Life as I had known it, the things that then animated me, were “shown” to be a pantomime - a joke. It was tremendously sad, and - for better or worse - I’ve never been the same since. Maybe it was a coming of age experience - something I would have more painfully experienced later anyway. But it cost something significant. It changed me. Still, some 25 years later, I don’t know if it was for the better.
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yieldcrv 1y ago

thanks for sharing that

throwmeaway222 1y ago

Thank you for posting this. While not everyone's experience is the same, after hearing all the hype I was inching closer to trying this... but this confirms that it's not a magic bullet and there are dangers. I don't have any specific mental issues right now, so there's also probably no reason to try it. The only thing I wish for, at 45 yo, is to have a faster to adapt mind like I had when I was younger.

mehphp 1y ago
Yes, it’s a roll of the dice which is unfortunate because it was actually pretty fun and a quite profound experience. I’m not saying people shouldn’t do it but just to proceed with caution and ideally under professional supervision.

andoando 1y ago

And I've gotten far worse effects from weed than shrooms or LCD weirdly enough.

superfrank 1y ago

I've did a bunch of recreational drugs growing up, but mushrooms were the only one that I swore off forever. It just didn't sit well with me and would lead to a ton of anxiety both during and after taking them. I think it's too easy for people to get caught up in the idea that these are miracle cures and forget that, just like with any drug, the effects will be different for different people. I'd love for it to be available for people who are seeing benefits, but I don't think there's any shame in people saying, "that doesn't work for me"