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I'm curious because I go through this experience a little more often than I'd like to admit, and typically end up frustrated and without any results (admittedly

I'm curious because I go through this experience a little more often than I'd like to admit, and typically end up frustrated and without any results (admittedly without using Kagi, yet). Did you just search for a phrase from the video, or what did you do to find what you needed with Kagi?

rrr_oh_man 1y ago
Try Yandex...
- throw123xz 1y ago
  Not a bad solution if you're looking for things that are usually removed from results in the west, eg, torrents and stuff like that.
  - rustcleaner 1y ago
    So streaming didn't kill the warez scene, it just got massively shadowbanned?
    - ujkhsjkdhf234 1y ago
      Yes and no. Because of aggressive action from IP holders a lot of these sites went underground and deliberately aren't indexed in the US and EU but providers from Russia or Switzerland got shadowbanned.
    - throw123xz 1y ago
      It's certainly not dead, but having access to cheap, high quality, easy to use alternatives certainly stopped many from using "pirated" content. With price increases, more subscriptions needed, more restrictions, etc, we'll probably see more people sailing the high seas.
  - rrr_oh_man 1y ago
    Or things from the old Internet that are not profitable, not advertised, don’t use Blog spam tactics, or https.
vohk 1y ago
I've not gone looking for videos specifically, but my experience there is that Kagi seems to focus on what you've explicitly searched for, where Google and others have increasingly leaned into interpreting your intent. Google's approach works well enough when you're searching for a commodity and you don't care terribly much about the specific source. I get the impression Google, especially post-LLM, wants to divorce satisfying your question from the underlying sources. I find Kagi is better at finding a specific thing, especially if you're willing to engage with it as a tool, ye olde search engine style. If my query doesn't find what I want, it's usually apparent why and I can reframe it.

rrr_oh_man 1y ago

Try Yandex...

throw123xz 1y ago
Not a bad solution if you're looking for things that are usually removed from results in the west, eg, torrents and stuff like that.
- rustcleaner 1y ago
  So streaming didn't kill the warez scene, it just got massively shadowbanned?
  - ujkhsjkdhf234 1y ago
    Yes and no. Because of aggressive action from IP holders a lot of these sites went underground and deliberately aren't indexed in the US and EU but providers from Russia or Switzerland got shadowbanned.
  - throw123xz 1y ago
    It's certainly not dead, but having access to cheap, high quality, easy to use alternatives certainly stopped many from using "pirated" content. With price increases, more subscriptions needed, more restrictions, etc, we'll probably see more people sailing the high seas.
- rrr_oh_man 1y ago
  Or things from the old Internet that are not profitable, not advertised, don’t use Blog spam tactics, or https.

vohk 1y ago

I've not gone looking for videos specifically, but my experience there is that Kagi seems to focus on what you've explicitly searched for, where Google and others have increasingly leaned into interpreting your intent. Google's approach works well enough when you're searching for a commodity and you don't care terribly much about the specific source. I get the impression Google, especially post-LLM, wants to divorce satisfying your question from the underlying sources. I find Kagi is better at finding a specific thing, especially if you're willing to engage with it as a tool, ye olde search engine style. If my query doesn't find what I want, it's usually apparent why and I can reframe it.