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No, this sounds like typical Bethesda. Their games have been the epitome of everything that's wrong in software development. I've yet to play a Bethesda game th

No, this sounds like typical Bethesda. Their games have been the epitome of everything that's wrong in software development. I've yet to play a Bethesda game that wasn't a technical and bug-ridden nightmare, so much so that I've stopped supporting them entirely. Their dev teams can't code themselves out of a paper bag. I'm not at all surprised that the PS3 is giving them serious troubles, given how it requires concurrent software to use all of the hardware (8 smaller cores over the Xbox's 3 larger ones, iirc).

programminggeek 14y ago
Their dev teams can't code themselves out of a paper bag? Really?! Given the complexity of the world simulations they are building and that they basically are successful at creating, I don't think I'd use such strong language. It takes a lot of talent and hard work to ship something like Skyrim. Bug ridden technical nightmare? I don't think I'd go that far either. Skyrim was very playable on the Xbox 360. Not too many bugs that I noticed, but I'm sure they are there if you look for them.
- stonemetal 14y ago
  Not sure I would have put it that harshly, but Bethesda does seem to be a content company not a tech company. They tend to license their engines, and the tech parts they do build tend to be buggy(i.e. their homegrown AI system, cool as heck but pretty buggy).
zeru 14y ago
There may be some bugs, but the way you are putting is extremely untrue. Given their complexity of the type of games, they are quite great. On top of that Bethesda is one of the few companies that still create games with very high replay value, there are not many (i currently cant come up with even one) who still create games "with endings" (i.e. not MMO/RTS type games) where you can put in that many hours and still be entertained. If you actually hate bethesdas creations, I simply think you hate the type of games, not the product itself.
Goronmon 14y ago
Their games have been the epitome of everything that's wrong in software development. They are one of the few development studios capable of making large open-world games that are fun to play, and they make it fairly easy for PC gamers to mod the game as well. I'll take buggy Skyrim over no Skyrim. Same goes for a game like Dark Souls. Not the most stable game ever made, but probably the best action RPG ever made and one of the best overall games. If they are so bad at game development, surely it should be easier for another group of developers to beat them at their own game?

programminggeek 14y ago

Their dev teams can't code themselves out of a paper bag? Really?! Given the complexity of the world simulations they are building and that they basically are successful at creating, I don't think I'd use such strong language. It takes a lot of talent and hard work to ship something like Skyrim. Bug ridden technical nightmare? I don't think I'd go that far either. Skyrim was very playable on the Xbox 360. Not too many bugs that I noticed, but I'm sure they are there if you look for them.

stonemetal 14y ago
Not sure I would have put it that harshly, but Bethesda does seem to be a content company not a tech company. They tend to license their engines, and the tech parts they do build tend to be buggy(i.e. their homegrown AI system, cool as heck but pretty buggy).

zeru 14y ago

There may be some bugs, but the way you are putting is extremely untrue. Given their complexity of the type of games, they are quite great. On top of that Bethesda is one of the few companies that still create games with very high replay value, there are not many (i currently cant come up with even one) who still create games "with endings" (i.e. not MMO/RTS type games) where you can put in that many hours and still be entertained. If you actually hate bethesdas creations, I simply think you hate the type of games, not the product itself.

Goronmon 14y ago

Their games have been the epitome of everything that's wrong in software development. They are one of the few development studios capable of making large open-world games that are fun to play, and they make it fairly easy for PC gamers to mod the game as well. I'll take buggy Skyrim over no Skyrim. Same goes for a game like Dark Souls. Not the most stable game ever made, but probably the best action RPG ever made and one of the best overall games. If they are so bad at game development, surely it should be easier for another group of developers to beat them at their own game?