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What are good alternatives?

by n1b0m 1y ago

pcardoso 1y ago
Fastmail?
Mashimo 1y ago
Depends on what features you need :) I use mailbox.org because I can use my own domain and they claim to focus on privacy. And it's hosted in Germany. But I bet it's missing feature that are essential for others. Posteo and protonmail are alternatives that friends of mine use.
bubblebeard 1y ago
Proton
beAbU 1y ago
Migadu + thunderbird. Not the best, not great UX, but it's f'n email, it can be ugly.
n1b0m 1y ago
Thanks all for the suggestions
antisol 1y ago
Dovecot + postfix + spamassassin for mail. radicale for CalDAV/CardDAV (calendar and contacts). Squirrelmail for webmail used to be ok (though I haven't used it in a long time). Or there's an embarrassment of riches out there if you prefer to pay someone for a nice web-based zero-management thing. I can't really recommend one, but I was reselling a whitelabel email service with pretty reasonable capacity and featureset to a bunch of businesses for $5/month/user about 5 years ago. A couple of people I know seem to like protonmail. Some ISPs might even still provide email. Though that leads to a vendor-lock-in problem and you're better paying for something distinct from your ISP IMO. Same goes for the addresses Apple hands out "free" to their users. The main trick is to remember the old adage: "If you're not paying for it, you are the product" - If you don't want to pay for email then you might as well just stick with google.
- renegat0x0 1y ago
  The first sentence says it all. Sounds like linux cake meme. I would try finding docker image with all email things working out of the box - if such thing exists. Suggestion to other providers is also... something. I have been using other providers. Proton does not allow me to use IMAP on free. Other servers have much spam, which I have been able to clear with some cronjob, but also that is a poor job. Besides... how do you know that other companies are better on serving you? How can I know if they sell my data to China? And self hosting is tough, even though it is easier than has ever been.
  - antisol 1y ago
    > Sounds like linux cake meme Or the unix philosophy. > self hosting is tough Depends on your definition of "tough", I guess - I've spent 0 minutes this year thinking about it (outside of this thread). > Proton does not allow me to use IMAP on free. I refer you back to my previous response WRT "free". > how do you know that other companies are better on serving you? How can I know if they sell my data to China? So, to summarise: "baaawww it would take me half an hour's work to set it up!" "If you don't run your own people could do nefarious things" ...Do you people proof-read at all? I legit don't understand how someone posts something so self-contradictory.

What are good alternatives?

by n1b0m 1y ago

What are good alternatives?

pcardoso 1y ago

Fastmail?

Mashimo 1y ago

Depends on what features you need :) I use mailbox.org because I can use my own domain and they claim to focus on privacy. And it's hosted in Germany. But I bet it's missing feature that are essential for others. Posteo and protonmail are alternatives that friends of mine use.

bubblebeard 1y ago

Proton

beAbU 1y ago

Migadu + thunderbird. Not the best, not great UX, but it's f'n email, it can be ugly.

n1b0m 1y ago

Thanks all for the suggestions

antisol 1y ago

Dovecot + postfix + spamassassin for mail. radicale for CalDAV/CardDAV (calendar and contacts). Squirrelmail for webmail used to be ok (though I haven't used it in a long time). Or there's an embarrassment of riches out there if you prefer to pay someone for a nice web-based zero-management thing. I can't really recommend one, but I was reselling a whitelabel email service with pretty reasonable capacity and featureset to a bunch of businesses for $5/month/user about 5 years ago. A couple of people I know seem to like protonmail. Some ISPs might even still provide email. Though that leads to a vendor-lock-in problem and you're better paying for something distinct from your ISP IMO. Same goes for the addresses Apple hands out "free" to their users. The main trick is to remember the old adage: "If you're not paying for it, you are the product" - If you don't want to pay for email then you might as well just stick with google.

renegat0x0 1y ago
The first sentence says it all. Sounds like linux cake meme. I would try finding docker image with all email things working out of the box - if such thing exists. Suggestion to other providers is also... something. I have been using other providers. Proton does not allow me to use IMAP on free. Other servers have much spam, which I have been able to clear with some cronjob, but also that is a poor job. Besides... how do you know that other companies are better on serving you? How can I know if they sell my data to China? And self hosting is tough, even though it is easier than has ever been.
- antisol 1y ago
  > Sounds like linux cake meme Or the unix philosophy. > self hosting is tough Depends on your definition of "tough", I guess - I've spent 0 minutes this year thinking about it (outside of this thread). > Proton does not allow me to use IMAP on free. I refer you back to my previous response WRT "free". > how do you know that other companies are better on serving you? How can I know if they sell my data to China? So, to summarise: "baaawww it would take me half an hour's work to set it up!" "If you don't run your own people could do nefarious things" ...Do you people proof-read at all? I legit don't understand how someone posts something so self-contradictory.