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What's the complaint? Would they rather have no choice to decline the new features? In other contexts the same people are complaining they can't turn new AI fe

by xnx 1y ago

What's the complaint? Would they rather have no choice to decline the new features? In other contexts the same people are complaining they can't turn new AI features off.

latexr 1y ago
> In other contexts the same people are complaining How do you know it’s the same people? That type of wording insinuates this is a type of person who is a hypocrite, yet I have never once saw someone making that claim who also showed it really were the same groups making both arguments. It looks more like a way to discredit separate but tangential groups one doesn’t like by making them look like one big contradiction.
diggan 1y ago
The complaint is that I used to be able to see events sent via Gmail in my Google Calendar without agreeing to Google using that data for "improving the services for everyone" and sharing that data with 3rd parties. Since today it seems that's no longer a choice.
- queenkjuul 1y ago
  Idk why this is so hard for people to get
  - const_cast 1y ago
    I don't either. The problem isn't that opting-out is available or not, but rather there's no granularity. You simply don't need to do 90% of this other shit in order to get feature X to work. For example, the weather widget on Android requires Chrome to have location access. Chrome, the web browser. For... a weather widget. Sorry, no you don't require that. That is a choice on Google's part. Number 1, why does Weather rely on Chrome? That's a choice, and a stupid one. Number 2, why do I need location at all for Weather? Why can I not manually input my City/ZIP?
- joncrocks 1y ago
  "I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it any further." Remember don't be evil? Those were the days.
oneeyedpigeon 1y ago
Yeah, tbf, I was delighted to turn those AI features off right away!
a0123 1y ago
The complaint is essentially that Gemini exists in the first place. Something that on one even needed.

by xnx 1y ago

What's the complaint? Would they rather have no choice to decline the new features? In other contexts the same people are complaining they can't turn new AI features off.

latexr 1y ago

> In other contexts the same people are complaining How do you know it’s the same people? That type of wording insinuates this is a type of person who is a hypocrite, yet I have never once saw someone making that claim who also showed it really were the same groups making both arguments. It looks more like a way to discredit separate but tangential groups one doesn’t like by making them look like one big contradiction.

diggan 1y ago

The complaint is that I used to be able to see events sent via Gmail in my Google Calendar without agreeing to Google using that data for "improving the services for everyone" and sharing that data with 3rd parties. Since today it seems that's no longer a choice.

queenkjuul 1y ago
Idk why this is so hard for people to get
- const_cast 1y ago
  I don't either. The problem isn't that opting-out is available or not, but rather there's no granularity. You simply don't need to do 90% of this other shit in order to get feature X to work. For example, the weather widget on Android requires Chrome to have location access. Chrome, the web browser. For... a weather widget. Sorry, no you don't require that. That is a choice on Google's part. Number 1, why does Weather rely on Chrome? That's a choice, and a stupid one. Number 2, why do I need location at all for Weather? Why can I not manually input my City/ZIP?
joncrocks 1y ago
"I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it any further." Remember don't be evil? Those were the days.

oneeyedpigeon 1y ago

Yeah, tbf, I was delighted to turn those AI features off right away!

a0123 1y ago

The complaint is essentially that Gemini exists in the first place. Something that on one even needed.