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But 16 year olds are not mature enough to decide whether they want to drink or smoke. They also should look at least 25 for that. It's really not a great idea.
by sparkie 1y ago
But 16 year olds are not mature enough to decide whether they want to drink or smoke. They also should look at least 25 for that.
It's really not a great idea. Most 16 year olds know nothing about the world - they're impressionable and easily coerced by social pressure, and schools are basically state-run indoctrination camps.
Labour are assuming the majority of the youth vote will go their way, but it could backfire heavily. The youth think Reform are cool and Labour are outdated.
- robocat 1y ago> Most 16 year olds know nothing about the world - they're impressionable and easily coerced by social pressure Sounds the same as everybody over 16 as well. You are really saying that they lack experience to make good judgements. In a democracy every person needs to learn by experience at some age. It is fairer if they learn sooner rather than later (gerontocracy).
- nottorp 1y ago> Most 16 year olds know nothing about the world - they're impressionable and easily coerced by social pressure As opposed to this 50+ guy I know who managed to once explain to me with a perfectly straight face that Bill Gates' foundations launched an unspecified pandemic in some african countries. And that Microsoft has secret weather control machinery on top of their Seattle buildings.
- giingyui 1y ago[flagged]
- stuaxo 1y agoWhy not men?
- tekla 1y agoThat's fine too. As long as they own property because thats how you KNOW they have buyin
- Joker_vD 1y agoI don't know why you're being downvoted, this has been one of the arguments of anti-suffragist groups which, by the way, heavily comprised of women until it became completely unfashionable.
- tsimionescu 1y agoIs blatant misoginy not a good enough reason to downvote? The poster above is claiming that women are more easily influenced by social pressure to vote against their interests. This is blatant and unacceptable misoginy.
- Joker_vD 1y agoThis has actually been true, you know that, right? Most anti-suffragists were women, fighting against their best interests. They've lost, thankfully.
- tsimionescu 1y agoI am aware that people, including women, used to use this misoginostic argument. The thing I take issue with is the OP's claim that it's "a good argument", to quote them directly. I also very much doubt your claim that most anti-suffragists were women. Especially since women had no power to decide something like this at the time - since only men voted, and only men could hold positions of authority, it was only men who could prevent women from being allowed to vote.
- goosejuice 1y agoMost humans know nothing about the world - they're impressionable and easily coerced by social pressure. Using this as an opportunity to teach about civic duty seems sensible to me. I'm doubtful a couple of years changes the outcome much. But I'm not in the UK. Best of luck!
- afavour 1y ago> But 16 year olds are not mature enough to decide whether they want to drink or smoke. I think the biggest thing 16 year olds are lacking is impulse control. A great many are curious about the world and capable of seeing the big picture of politics... but will also get blackout drunk at the drop of a hat. So I see voting at 16 (something that's pretty boring and with little immediate benefit or dopamine hit) vs drinking and smoking as being quite different.
- olddustytrail 1y ago> The youth think Reform are cool and Labour are outdated. This is completely wrong. Support for Reform is lowest in the 18-24 age group at 8%. It is highest in the 65+ age group at 37%. See https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/voting-intention?crossBreak=2549 https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/voting-intenti...