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> And even if the killing was painless, you're still killing tens of animals per year for the sole sake of a tastier meal. Do you believe that's inherently imm

> And even if the killing was painless, you're still killing tens of animals per year for the sole sake of a tastier meal. Do you believe that's inherently immoral?

thrance 1y ago
I believe there's a good argument to be made, yes. This video [0] by a philosophy teacher convinced me of it. Unfortunately, it's in french so most here probably won't be able to enjoy it. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaVWbdlAiCQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaVWbdlAiCQ EDIT: he gives these sources that, fortunetaly, are in english: https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE-2.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE-2.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE-3.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE-3.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE-4.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE-4.pdf Takes the form of a conversation between two people, like the texts of olde.
- closewith 1y ago
  These come up every now and then, but are explicitly arguing against factory farming, not meat consumption in general. Factory farming is indeed immoral, but is a separate, but related issue to meat consumption.
burnt-resistor 1y ago
Anthropocentrism. philosophical viewpoint arguing that human beings are the central or most significant entities in the world. This is a basic belief embedded in many Western religions and philosophies. Anthropocentrism regards humans as separate from and superior to nature and holds that human life has intrinsic value while other entities (including animals, plants, mineral resources, and so on) are resources that may justifiably be exploited for the benefit of humankind. Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/anthropocentrism https://www.britannica.com/topic/anthropocentrism
- BobaFloutist 1y ago
  It's hard to argue that we're not in some way unique when we're the only animals having this debate, and every other carnivore or omnivore (and many 'herbivores,' opportunistically) have no such qualms and happily eat all the other animals they possibly can.

> And even if the killing was painless, you're still killing tens of animals per year for the sole sake of a tastier meal. Do you believe that's inherently immoral?

thrance 1y ago

I believe there's a good argument to be made, yes. This video [0] by a philosophy teacher convinced me of it. Unfortunately, it's in french so most here probably won't be able to enjoy it. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaVWbdlAiCQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaVWbdlAiCQ EDIT: he gives these sources that, fortunetaly, are in english: https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE-2.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE-2.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE-3.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE-3.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE-4.pdf https://philpapers.org/archive/HUEDOE-4.pdf Takes the form of a conversation between two people, like the texts of olde.

closewith 1y ago
These come up every now and then, but are explicitly arguing against factory farming, not meat consumption in general. Factory farming is indeed immoral, but is a separate, but related issue to meat consumption.

burnt-resistor 1y ago

Anthropocentrism. philosophical viewpoint arguing that human beings are the central or most significant entities in the world. This is a basic belief embedded in many Western religions and philosophies. Anthropocentrism regards humans as separate from and superior to nature and holds that human life has intrinsic value while other entities (including animals, plants, mineral resources, and so on) are resources that may justifiably be exploited for the benefit of humankind. Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/anthropocentrism https://www.britannica.com/topic/anthropocentrism

BobaFloutist 1y ago
It's hard to argue that we're not in some way unique when we're the only animals having this debate, and every other carnivore or omnivore (and many 'herbivores,' opportunistically) have no such qualms and happily eat all the other animals they possibly can.