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We have cookie alerts because the world's largest browser, which is created and run by the world's largest advertising agency, has no incentive to make it easie

by akie 1y ago

We have cookie alerts because the world's largest browser, which is created and run by the world's largest advertising agency, has no incentive to make it easier for you to stop the flow of data you're sending them that's making them so much money.

Quarrel 1y ago
That is not the reason at all. Google was very new when the EU proposed these laws in 2000. It certainly didn't have a browser. I think the privacy provisions and disclosures required under GDPR give users more useful information (ie they now actually need a privacy policy), and Cookie popups are just a silly distraction that offer no further value. We open so many web pages, so quickly these days, most users are not making informed rational decisions about the popup - they're just clicking it to make it go away. They both annoy users and give them a false sense of improved privacy protection. The blocking of third party cookies by browsers, and proper privacy disclosures are a much better solution.
- akie 1y ago
  > The blocking of third party cookies by browsers (is) a much better solution. Exactly! And why is that not being implemented? Because Chrome is top dog and they're earning a lot of money with your data, so WHY would they want to stop that data flow? Everything that would make it easier for you to protect your data would lose them money, so they have no incentive to do that. Instead, we are stuck with these annoying cookie banners, which are easily and wrongfully blamed on the EU instead of on the website owners and the browser vendors.
giingyui 1y ago
Multiple official websites such as https://gdpr.eu/ https://gdpr.eu/ have cookie banners.
- Kim_Bruning 1y ago
  Odd. I tried it in (what I thought) was a clean browser I use for testing, and didn't get a banner. Is it just me?
- latexr 1y ago
  Those have banners because they have to by law, regardless if the cookies they set would otherwise require a banner. https://commission.europa.eu/resources/europa-web-guide/design-content-and-development/privacy-security-and-legal-notices/cookies-and-similar-technologies_en https://commission.europa.eu/resources/europa-web-guide/desi... > Use of the cookie consent kit is mandatory on each page of the DGs and executive agencies-owned websites, regardless of the cookies used.

by akie 1y ago

Quarrel 1y ago

That is not the reason at all. Google was very new when the EU proposed these laws in 2000. It certainly didn't have a browser. I think the privacy provisions and disclosures required under GDPR give users more useful information (ie they now actually need a privacy policy), and Cookie popups are just a silly distraction that offer no further value. We open so many web pages, so quickly these days, most users are not making informed rational decisions about the popup - they're just clicking it to make it go away. They both annoy users and give them a false sense of improved privacy protection. The blocking of third party cookies by browsers, and proper privacy disclosures are a much better solution.

akie 1y ago
> The blocking of third party cookies by browsers (is) a much better solution. Exactly! And why is that not being implemented? Because Chrome is top dog and they're earning a lot of money with your data, so WHY would they want to stop that data flow? Everything that would make it easier for you to protect your data would lose them money, so they have no incentive to do that. Instead, we are stuck with these annoying cookie banners, which are easily and wrongfully blamed on the EU instead of on the website owners and the browser vendors.

giingyui 1y ago

Multiple official websites such as https://gdpr.eu/ https://gdpr.eu/ have cookie banners.

Kim_Bruning 1y ago
Odd. I tried it in (what I thought) was a clean browser I use for testing, and didn't get a banner. Is it just me?
latexr 1y ago
Those have banners because they have to by law, regardless if the cookies they set would otherwise require a banner. https://commission.europa.eu/resources/europa-web-guide/design-content-and-development/privacy-security-and-legal-notices/cookies-and-similar-technologies_en https://commission.europa.eu/resources/europa-web-guide/desi... > Use of the cookie consent kit is mandatory on each page of the DGs and executive agencies-owned websites, regardless of the cookies used.