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This is pretty rad. I'm surprised no one's made a CEEFAX replica for the terminal yet [0]. Their weather page is pretty iconic [1]. [0] There are CEEFAX Emula

This is pretty rad. I'm surprised no one's made a CEEFAX replica for the terminal yet [0]. Their weather page is pretty iconic [1]. [0] There are CEEFAX Emulators online that pull from the BBC RSS feeds to do this. [1] https://teletextart.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/weather.png https://teletextart.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/weather...

PokemonNoGo 1y ago
That is pretty. Can you link? Took me a moment to realise it wasnth July 20th yet. Can't imagine the weather was like that 9 years ago!
- vesinisa 1y ago
  July 20, 2016 was a Wednesday and the screencap shows Friday. First 20 July Friday before 2016 is Friday 20 July 2012. No idea how to pull historical UK weather data to see if it matches :)
- JdeBP 1y ago
  You need some U.K.-specific knowledge, which is that CEEFAX went off air in 2012. If you see a screenshot of genuine CEEFAX (not one of the several modern things that pretend to be teletext) it will be from before 2012, possibly from long before as it was a service embedded in analogue PAL broadcasts that was capturable as page text (with all of the control characters) by BBC Micro users (who had bought the Acorn "Teletext Adapter") as long ago as the early 1980s.
  - PokemonNoGo 1y ago
    Bummer, thanks for the reply!
section_me 1y ago
There is kind of one now https://github.com/shift/ceefax-weather https://github.com/shift/ceefax-weather :D
- frumiousirc 1y ago
  What took you so long?!
- rjh29 1y ago
  Have you actually run it?
  - section_me 1y ago
    Of course I have. It's nothing impressive and far from a 100% clone of the CEEFAX page. But its a start if someone wanted to take it further. I was more interested in trying out ratatui with Gemini.
    - rjh29 1y ago
      It's more work for someone to take your AI slop and iterate it, than to just generate a new AI project themselves. You're contributed only noise. If it was close to the CEEFAX page then it would be useful as a project. If you included the prompts then it would have educational use for others.
  - swores 1y ago
    It would be strange if they used AI to create it, published on GitHub, and shared on HN, but didn't bother running it once...
    - deleted 1y ago
      [deleted]
JdeBP 1y ago
Strictly speaking, one couldn't do it properly, rendering the pages as actual text for TUIs rather than graphically for GUIs, until Unicode version 13 came along, which included the necessary block graphics characters and which was only 5 years ago. And even then one needs modern fonts like Viznut's Unscii or GNU Unifont or which cover the necessary code points (or one of the terminal emulators that algorithmically constructs block and line characters, and has been updated for Unicode 13). * https://github.com/jdebp/unscii/blob/2.1.1f/src/grids.txt#L456 https://github.com/jdebp/unscii/blob/2.1.1f/src/grids.txt#L4... * https://github.com/jdebp/unscii/blob/2.1.1f/src/grids.txt#L979 https://github.com/jdebp/unscii/blob/2.1.1f/src/grids.txt#L9...
- swores 1y ago
  Even if it couldn't be perfectly replicated, I'm sure it could've been done in some way before - after all, it's almost 20 years since someone set up a telnet service which broadcast football World Cup games as converted ascii "video" generated live from the TV broadcasts! https://www.freshandnew.org/2006/06/watch-the-world-cup-in-ascii/ https://www.freshandnew.org/2006/06/watch-the-world-cup-in-a... (And I actually remember it being surprisingly watchable, you could follow what was happening in the game even though you couldn't judge stuff like players' ball control or anything like that.)
  - JdeBP 1y ago
    Teletext is not ASCII, simply put. So what one could do with ASCII was little to no help. It's not even an IBM PC/AT code page.
anthk 1y ago
I use Brandy perfectly fine by spawning a Mode7 (Teletext like) script to browse servers/BBS'... https://github.com/stardot/MatrixBrandy https://github.com/stardot/MatrixBrandy
anthk 1y ago
Ah, ok, you meant 'terminal'. There are ceefax clients for terminal too. But you need to change the font for XTerms. With framebuffers under Linux/BSD you might be able to do the same, but you would need to convert the fonts first and map the chars. Here you have: https://github.com/simonlaszcz/vidtex https://github.com/simonlaszcz/vidtex

PokemonNoGo 1y ago

That is pretty. Can you link? Took me a moment to realise it wasnth July 20th yet. Can't imagine the weather was like that 9 years ago!

vesinisa 1y ago
July 20, 2016 was a Wednesday and the screencap shows Friday. First 20 July Friday before 2016 is Friday 20 July 2012. No idea how to pull historical UK weather data to see if it matches :)
JdeBP 1y ago
You need some U.K.-specific knowledge, which is that CEEFAX went off air in 2012. If you see a screenshot of genuine CEEFAX (not one of the several modern things that pretend to be teletext) it will be from before 2012, possibly from long before as it was a service embedded in analogue PAL broadcasts that was capturable as page text (with all of the control characters) by BBC Micro users (who had bought the Acorn "Teletext Adapter") as long ago as the early 1980s.
- PokemonNoGo 1y ago
  Bummer, thanks for the reply!

section_me 1y ago

There is kind of one now https://github.com/shift/ceefax-weather https://github.com/shift/ceefax-weather :D

frumiousirc 1y ago
What took you so long?!
rjh29 1y ago
Have you actually run it?
- section_me 1y ago
  Of course I have. It's nothing impressive and far from a 100% clone of the CEEFAX page. But its a start if someone wanted to take it further. I was more interested in trying out ratatui with Gemini.
  - rjh29 1y ago
    It's more work for someone to take your AI slop and iterate it, than to just generate a new AI project themselves. You're contributed only noise. If it was close to the CEEFAX page then it would be useful as a project. If you included the prompts then it would have educational use for others.
- swores 1y ago
  It would be strange if they used AI to create it, published on GitHub, and shared on HN, but didn't bother running it once...
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]

JdeBP 1y ago

Strictly speaking, one couldn't do it properly, rendering the pages as actual text for TUIs rather than graphically for GUIs, until Unicode version 13 came along, which included the necessary block graphics characters and which was only 5 years ago. And even then one needs modern fonts like Viznut's Unscii or GNU Unifont or which cover the necessary code points (or one of the terminal emulators that algorithmically constructs block and line characters, and has been updated for Unicode 13). * https://github.com/jdebp/unscii/blob/2.1.1f/src/grids.txt#L456 https://github.com/jdebp/unscii/blob/2.1.1f/src/grids.txt#L4... * https://github.com/jdebp/unscii/blob/2.1.1f/src/grids.txt#L979 https://github.com/jdebp/unscii/blob/2.1.1f/src/grids.txt#L9...

swores 1y ago
Even if it couldn't be perfectly replicated, I'm sure it could've been done in some way before - after all, it's almost 20 years since someone set up a telnet service which broadcast football World Cup games as converted ascii "video" generated live from the TV broadcasts! https://www.freshandnew.org/2006/06/watch-the-world-cup-in-ascii/ https://www.freshandnew.org/2006/06/watch-the-world-cup-in-a... (And I actually remember it being surprisingly watchable, you could follow what was happening in the game even though you couldn't judge stuff like players' ball control or anything like that.)
- JdeBP 1y ago
  Teletext is not ASCII, simply put. So what one could do with ASCII was little to no help. It's not even an IBM PC/AT code page.

anthk 1y ago

I use Brandy perfectly fine by spawning a Mode7 (Teletext like) script to browse servers/BBS'... https://github.com/stardot/MatrixBrandy https://github.com/stardot/MatrixBrandy

anthk 1y ago

Ah, ok, you meant 'terminal'. There are ceefax clients for terminal too. But you need to change the font for XTerms. With framebuffers under Linux/BSD you might be able to do the same, but you would need to convert the fonts first and map the chars. Here you have: https://github.com/simonlaszcz/vidtex https://github.com/simonlaszcz/vidtex