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Intel has 108,000 employees. In comparison: Nvidia 36,000 AMD 28,000 Qualcomm 49,000 Texas Instruments 34,000 Broadcom 37,000 It is obvious that Intel is
by paxys 1y ago
Intel has 108,000 employees.
In comparison:
Nvidia 36,000
AMD 28,000
Qualcomm 49,000
Texas Instruments 34,000
Broadcom 37,000
It is obvious that Intel is ridiculously overstaffed.
- adrr 1y agoIntel runs their own fabs. NVidia, AMD, Qualcomm outsource chip manufacturing.
- SJC_Hacker 1y agoTheir fabs have been falling well behind TSMC for nearly a decade, and in fact their higher end stuff is mostly produced by TSMC
- thechao 1y agoTSMC has 83000 employees. If Intel does everything TSMC & NV do, then they should have something like 83000+36000~120000 employees?
- paxys 1y agoThe scale isn't really comparable. TSMC manufactures 5x more wafers than Intel, and the disparity is getting exponentially worse every year (see the chart at https://thecuberesearch.com/247-special-breaking-analysis-the-root-cause-of-intels-troubles-a-critical-analysis/ https://thecuberesearch.com/247-special-breaking-analysis-th...). In fact 30% of Intel's own production is outsourced to TSMC.
- nateglims 1y agoThere's other reasons to think it, but 5x wafers on 8x staff seems within the realm of comparable.
- RC_ITR 1y agoSure but that's different than your original point.
- mensetmanusman 1y agoThe world isn’t the panning for the 2027 takeover.
- saagarjha 1y agoOf what?
- Grosvenor 1y agoTaiwan.
- mike_hearn 1y ago2027 is the date the CCP has announced for when it'll be militarily ready to invade Taiwan. Whether they actually do so or not is an open question.
- dapperdrake 1y agoThe scale also isn’t linear.
- mschuster91 1y ago> If Intel does everything TSMC & NV do, then they should have something like 83000+36000~120000 employees? TSMC is a fab, not a chip designer. And NV makes GPUs and small scale SoCs like the ones in the Nintendo Switch and automotive (IIRC the Tegra SoC that powered the Switch 1 literally was an automotive chip that they repurposed). That's quite the difference from what Intel makes: CPUs that power a lot of the world's compute capacity for laptops, PCs and servers, wireless chips (Bluetooh+WiFi), their own GPU line...
- dahart 1y ago> IIRC the Tegra SoC that powered the Switch 1 literally was an automotive chip that they repurposed Tegra was designed for mobile devices like smartphones. The automotive part came later and isn’t particularly relevant. Intel also makes low power SoCs for mobile devices, e.g. Atom.
- mschuster91 1y ago> Intel also makes low power SoCs for mobile devices, e.g. Atom. Last time I heard that name was well over a decade ago for crappy "netbook" devices. Just looked it up, last Atom CPU was released in 2013 per Wikipedia [1]. They might still make them for embedded computing purposes with very long life cycles, but no idea at which volume. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom
- kasabali 1y agoThey still make them, they're just not called Atom anymore.
- insane_dreamer 1y agoNone of those companies have chip manufacturing. The only true comparison is TSMC but in only does chip manufacturing and not chip design/development. So Nvidia + TSMC would probably be a fair comparison.
- denimnerd42 1y agoTI does
- pclmulqdq 1y agoFor the GP of this comment, TI mixes running their own fabs with some fabless product lines. A lot of the companies that make analog ICs still own their fabs and TI is one of them.
- drjasonharrison 1y agoIntel has about as many salary employees (blue badge) as contract employees (green badge). Only the blue badges are included in the counts.
- blinding-streak 1y agoI know it's apples to oranges but ASML has 44,000 employees, for reference.
- izacus 1y agoWith this brilliant logic, you should switch to being a McKinsey consultant and start driving companies into the ground.