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We've seen this story play out before. Every phone manufacturer has had the bright idea of introducing a small flagship. They spend a ton of money developing an

by paxys 1y ago

We've seen this story play out before. Every phone manufacturer has had the bright idea of introducing a small flagship. They spend a ton of money developing and marketing it. Internet people get excited. And when launched - no one buys it. They learn their lesson and move on.

rtpg 1y ago
the foldables seem to have found their niche at least in this space though. But they get away with it by... also being a big phone
- walterbell 1y ago
  iPhone Fold is rumored to be 5.5" screen size.
makeitdouble 1y ago
> They spend a ton of money developing and marketing it. I beg to differ. How much marketing money did Apple spend on the mini line, in comparison to the "standard" size ? > And when launched - no one buys it. Pixel 3 and 4a are still the most sold phones in the Pixel line. The news when Pixel7 was launched: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/this-is-the-most-sold-google-pixel-phone-so-far/articleshow/94713363.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/this-is-the...
MostlyStable 1y ago
It does not surprise me that the things that "internet" people want are not generally popular. What I don't understand is why that means they can't make money selling them anyways. Companies used to make money when the entire cell phone market was _dramatically_ smaller than today. Sure, maybe only 5% of customers want that phone, but 5% of a huge market is still a lot of people! I just have trouble believing that there isn't room for serving that segment of the consumer base.
- bigstrat2003 1y ago
  Yeah, that is surprising and frustrating to me as well. I don't mind being a smaller market. Hell, I don't mind paying more because of it. But companies these days are largely unwilling to have a steady, sustainable business in a smaller market. The insatiable desire to capture the biggest market at all times leaves society as a whole much worse off, because if your needs aren't the most common - you simply cannot find anyone who will do business with you.
adithyassekhar 1y ago
Slight tangent, I thought nowadays everyone is (are?) internet people. Everyone's on their phone all the time. Even if it's tiktok or instagram, why aren't brands spending to reach this audience.
- anxoo 1y ago
  1% of people post/comment, 99% like/retweet or just read. everyone you read on the internet is weird by default
  - adithyassekhar 1y ago
    That's sad. I've always felt that by engaging in a community, I'm being weird somehow. Even mainstream social media, I don't see my peers commenting anything. When I comment I feel like I'm being weird.
meatmanek 1y ago
Apple never released a flagship iPhone Mini, i.e. an iPhone Mini Pro. If you wanted good cameras (like the more useful 2x or 3x lens, rather than the mostly-useless 0.5x lens that they added to the base models), you had to get the large or larger phone. I would've bought the 13 Mini Pro if it had existed, but camera quality wasn't something I was willing to compromise on.

by paxys 1y ago

rtpg 1y ago

the foldables seem to have found their niche at least in this space though. But they get away with it by... also being a big phone

walterbell 1y ago
iPhone Fold is rumored to be 5.5" screen size.

makeitdouble 1y ago

> They spend a ton of money developing and marketing it. I beg to differ. How much marketing money did Apple spend on the mini line, in comparison to the "standard" size ? > And when launched - no one buys it. Pixel 3 and 4a are still the most sold phones in the Pixel line. The news when Pixel7 was launched: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/this-is-the-most-sold-google-pixel-phone-so-far/articleshow/94713363.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/this-is-the...

MostlyStable 1y ago

It does not surprise me that the things that "internet" people want are not generally popular. What I don't understand is why that means they can't make money selling them anyways. Companies used to make money when the entire cell phone market was _dramatically_ smaller than today. Sure, maybe only 5% of customers want that phone, but 5% of a huge market is still a lot of people! I just have trouble believing that there isn't room for serving that segment of the consumer base.

bigstrat2003 1y ago
Yeah, that is surprising and frustrating to me as well. I don't mind being a smaller market. Hell, I don't mind paying more because of it. But companies these days are largely unwilling to have a steady, sustainable business in a smaller market. The insatiable desire to capture the biggest market at all times leaves society as a whole much worse off, because if your needs aren't the most common - you simply cannot find anyone who will do business with you.

adithyassekhar 1y ago

Slight tangent, I thought nowadays everyone is (are?) internet people. Everyone's on their phone all the time. Even if it's tiktok or instagram, why aren't brands spending to reach this audience.

anxoo 1y ago
1% of people post/comment, 99% like/retweet or just read. everyone you read on the internet is weird by default
- adithyassekhar 1y ago
  That's sad. I've always felt that by engaging in a community, I'm being weird somehow. Even mainstream social media, I don't see my peers commenting anything. When I comment I feel like I'm being weird.

meatmanek 1y ago

Apple never released a flagship iPhone Mini, i.e. an iPhone Mini Pro. If you wanted good cameras (like the more useful 2x or 3x lens, rather than the mostly-useless 0.5x lens that they added to the base models), you had to get the large or larger phone. I would've bought the 13 Mini Pro if it had existed, but camera quality wasn't something I was willing to compromise on.