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Agreed. I'd prefer a modern iPhone the size of an iPhone 4, it was perfegt. I made the same "upgrade" from 12 mini to 16 Pro, and the 16 Pro is so large and hea

Agreed. I'd prefer a modern iPhone the size of an iPhone 4, it was perfegt. I made the same "upgrade" from 12 mini to 16 Pro, and the 16 Pro is so large and heavy. Feels like we're moving backwards in time.

walterbell 1y ago
2026 iPhone Fold is rumored iPhone Mini size unfolding to iPad Mini size. https://9to5mac.com/2025/04/28/iphone-18-fold-details-launch-soon/ https://9to5mac.com/2025/04/28/iphone-18-fold-details-launch...
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- frosted-flakes 1y ago
  Folding phones don't solve the problem of oversized phones, which is that they are awkward and cumbersome to use.
  - walterbell 1y ago
    Some customers want a phone the size of iPhone Mini, rumored to be sold for $2K+ by Apple in 2026.
    - notpushkin 1y ago
      Hmmm, so there will be decent small screens produced in 2026, and it would be feasible to make small phones around them?
  - theshackleford 1y ago
    > they are awkward and cumbersome to use. For you. As someone with large hands, I appreciate that phones grew in size and I swapped to larger devices as soon as I could.
    - const_cast 1y ago
      For... well, most people. Half of people are women, so I don't know how they do it. I'm a man, with man hands, and modern phones are not one hand operable. You need two hands. Even if you can do a particular operation with one hand, the phone is unsteady and it's awkward. I think people with large hands are definitely the minority. So, we're not optimizing for hand size. We're optimizing for engagement, I think.
      - thaumasiotes 1y ago
        It was observed a long time ago on HN that women, with their tiny hands, loved huge phones - since they were using small phones two-handed anyway - and it was the men who complained that small, one-handed phones stopped being sold.
        const_cast 1y ago
        Depends on how you define small. I we're talking back in the era of 3 inch screens, I doubt this.
      - theshackleford 1y ago
        > For... well, most people. You don’t speak for most people. You can only speak for yourself. The feelings of “Most people” are clear as demonstrated by the market; they not only find large phones fine, they find them preferable. > modern phones are not one hand operable So? I mean for me they are so it’s irrelevant, but what should it matter if they are not? The market obviously does not share your interest in devices to be operated in such a manner as a priority or something of particular importance. That being said, it’s of course unfortunate that if that is your preference, that nothing in the market caters for it. Your preferences and wants are obviously entirely valid and it’s a shame there is no interest even from a boutique vendor in meeting them. I have plenty of preferences for products that are not catered too, as I am sure is true for us all and of course I don’t love it, but I must live in the reality that the larger market doesn’t always want what I do. > We’re optimizing for engagement The market is optimizing for what consumers asked for, which was larger devices. You say I am in a minority, I claim equally that you are in a minority as well.
- dontlaugh 1y ago
  I hope they instead (or also) make a flip version opening up to at most the size of a regular iPhone.
- layer8 1y ago
  It's not iPhone mini sized, the outer screen is wider than even a Pro Max, and it will likely be heavier than a Pro. See here for dimensions and mockups: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/rumoured-iphone-fold-size-concept-drawing-and-renders.2456447/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/rumoured-iphone-fold-si...
  - ksec 1y ago
    That is actually what I have in mind and a much better design. Current Foldable are too tall.
dontlaugh 1y ago
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walterbell 1y ago

2026 iPhone Fold is rumored iPhone Mini size unfolding to iPad Mini size. https://9to5mac.com/2025/04/28/iphone-18-fold-details-launch-soon/ https://9to5mac.com/2025/04/28/iphone-18-fold-details-launch...

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frosted-flakes 1y ago
Folding phones don't solve the problem of oversized phones, which is that they are awkward and cumbersome to use.
- walterbell 1y ago
  Some customers want a phone the size of iPhone Mini, rumored to be sold for $2K+ by Apple in 2026.
  - notpushkin 1y ago
    Hmmm, so there will be decent small screens produced in 2026, and it would be feasible to make small phones around them?
- theshackleford 1y ago
  > they are awkward and cumbersome to use. For you. As someone with large hands, I appreciate that phones grew in size and I swapped to larger devices as soon as I could.
  - const_cast 1y ago
    For... well, most people. Half of people are women, so I don't know how they do it. I'm a man, with man hands, and modern phones are not one hand operable. You need two hands. Even if you can do a particular operation with one hand, the phone is unsteady and it's awkward. I think people with large hands are definitely the minority. So, we're not optimizing for hand size. We're optimizing for engagement, I think.
    - thaumasiotes 1y ago
      It was observed a long time ago on HN that women, with their tiny hands, loved huge phones - since they were using small phones two-handed anyway - and it was the men who complained that small, one-handed phones stopped being sold.
      - const_cast 1y ago
        Depends on how you define small. I we're talking back in the era of 3 inch screens, I doubt this.
    - theshackleford 1y ago
      > For... well, most people. You don’t speak for most people. You can only speak for yourself. The feelings of “Most people” are clear as demonstrated by the market; they not only find large phones fine, they find them preferable. > modern phones are not one hand operable So? I mean for me they are so it’s irrelevant, but what should it matter if they are not? The market obviously does not share your interest in devices to be operated in such a manner as a priority or something of particular importance. That being said, it’s of course unfortunate that if that is your preference, that nothing in the market caters for it. Your preferences and wants are obviously entirely valid and it’s a shame there is no interest even from a boutique vendor in meeting them. I have plenty of preferences for products that are not catered too, as I am sure is true for us all and of course I don’t love it, but I must live in the reality that the larger market doesn’t always want what I do. > We’re optimizing for engagement The market is optimizing for what consumers asked for, which was larger devices. You say I am in a minority, I claim equally that you are in a minority as well.
dontlaugh 1y ago
I hope they instead (or also) make a flip version opening up to at most the size of a regular iPhone.
layer8 1y ago
It's not iPhone mini sized, the outer screen is wider than even a Pro Max, and it will likely be heavier than a Pro. See here for dimensions and mockups: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/rumoured-iphone-fold-size-concept-drawing-and-renders.2456447/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/rumoured-iphone-fold-si...
- ksec 1y ago
  That is actually what I have in mind and a much better design. Current Foldable are too tall.

dontlaugh 1y ago