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> CCTV has a funny tendency of being useless in that regard I don't think it's safe to depend on this by default. I know a few business owners who have video

by nickjj 1y ago

> CCTV has a funny tendency of being useless in that regard I don't think it's safe to depend on this by default. I know a few business owners who have video (and audio) recording set ups in their business where 100+ customers come and go daily. There might be 6 motion activated cameras saving everything to a local box in the store. That box might have let's say 1TB of disk space. Even with motion activated cameras it could fill up in ~3 weeks to where it's no longer recording. Once it gets filled up, it gets permanently deleted with no backups. This could be a manual and adhoc process, it depends on the owner. I never had any say in how they operate, just repeating what I've heard and seen. This idea of trusting that companies record and save all interactions and calls indefinitely is no way something I'd trust for anything important.

Someone 1y ago
> This idea of trusting that companies record and save all interactions and calls indefinitely is no way something I'd trust for anything important. In many jurisdictions, it is against the law to record and save all interactions and calls indefinitely. Often, law says you can only make video recordings for a given, legal, purpose. If the goal is to deter crime and help solve crimes, keeping recordings around for a few weeks is allowed, but keeping them forever typically isn’t.
chrisandchris 1y ago
> Even with motion activated cameras it could fill up in ~3 weeks to where it's no longer recording. What are the legal aspects to it? In Switzerland e.g. the recommended duration to store recordings are "up to 72h, or as long as required to fulfil their job" (afaik, the law isn't very exactly defined) . I could see it difficult to argue "as long as the disk is not fill" as a valid duration.
- nickjj 1y ago
  I'm not sure, they are in NY. I did a quick Googling and it says there's no specific legal mandate on the storage period for a restaurant. For any recording in NY, there is a legal requirement to post a sign that there's a camera recording both video and audio (which they have). I do see that all over the place in general. The sign needs to be in clear view.

by nickjj 1y ago

Someone 1y ago

> This idea of trusting that companies record and save all interactions and calls indefinitely is no way something I'd trust for anything important. In many jurisdictions, it is against the law to record and save all interactions and calls indefinitely. Often, law says you can only make video recordings for a given, legal, purpose. If the goal is to deter crime and help solve crimes, keeping recordings around for a few weeks is allowed, but keeping them forever typically isn’t.

chrisandchris 1y ago

> Even with motion activated cameras it could fill up in ~3 weeks to where it's no longer recording. What are the legal aspects to it? In Switzerland e.g. the recommended duration to store recordings are "up to 72h, or as long as required to fulfil their job" (afaik, the law isn't very exactly defined) . I could see it difficult to argue "as long as the disk is not fill" as a valid duration.

nickjj 1y ago
I'm not sure, they are in NY. I did a quick Googling and it says there's no specific legal mandate on the storage period for a restaurant. For any recording in NY, there is a legal requirement to post a sign that there's a camera recording both video and audio (which they have). I do see that all over the place in general. The sign needs to be in clear view.