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I am excited by this for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is that it seems like a true joshu project--simple infrastructure that uses simple approaches

I am excited by this for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is that it seems like a true joshu project--simple infrastructure that uses simple approaches to engage crowds in collaborative activities. With del.icio.us it was enabling structured discovery via folksonomy, with human.io it is enabling broadening the reach of crowdsourcing. (If only I could somehow coin the term turksonomy and have it make sense in this context.) A couple of crazy ideas would be to use this to perhaps improve upon that niche that Flickr and Twitter are sometimes used for, which is crowd sourcing collection of digital media for some event (like a concert, conference or news event). Instead of showing live tweets as a screensaver at a conference, show images collected via human.io. I also think there is a huge potential for creating interactive narratives and even games. When I try to explain the idea to people, though, the question is always "what is in it for the worker?". With delicious, the creation of a good folksonomy that added value to the ecosystem was simply a side effect of the selfish benefit of keeping track of your own bookmarks. That's why I think for human.io to go viral to the point where you have a large and engaged workforce, you need to find its "win/win" proposition. It could simply be the game aspect (see games with a purpose) or maybe a give a little/get a little dynamic. Great stuff...can't wait to see how this one evolves.

joshu 14y ago
Credit where credit is due - Paul had the idea. I kept talking about labor pools and mturk etcetera being the future. Your ideas (conference photos, narratives, etc) are really good ones. Want to prototype some? I'm not sure that viral is necessary. Delicious was never viral in any way. Just useful. ("turksonomy" - hee)
- firebones 14y ago
  Okay, not viral, but I think there has to be some psychological hook for the worker that gives them benefit for the small barter of time and effort. Novelty gets you in the door, maybe boredom, but then again if I am bored, I can always just start answering election year push polls. Some way for workers to see value besides karma or a pay rate of $3/hour is what I haven't figured out yet. Viral in the classic sense might not have described delicious, but I will say that I had a much richer and more interesting and more professionally useful social network of followers and followed people on delicious than any network since...Twitter is the heir for this kind of network-filtered firehouse of interesting stuff, and Quora almost could get there, but delicious had more impact per byte than either of those. I always considered it somewhat viral in the sense that I had maybe a dozen coworker colleagues I followed plus a smattering of random people who turned out to essentially be high-signal, curating SMEs for various interest areas I needed. I am working on prototyping ideas as time allows, but still working though the examples so far.
gizzlon 14y ago
"what is in it for the worker?" My first thought exactly. This could be epic for so many things that are not practical today. Maybe the incentive could just be: To get the data, you have to participate in creating it. Would love a "how long are the lines at the nightclubs" task Edit: Maybe it's worth looking at how private torrent sites do this, there has to be an incentive to seed or it doesn't work. There's basically a ratio that can't drop too low, or a point system where you start >0. So you have to give X to get Y. Maybe let the users pay for "points".

joshu 14y ago

Credit where credit is due - Paul had the idea. I kept talking about labor pools and mturk etcetera being the future. Your ideas (conference photos, narratives, etc) are really good ones. Want to prototype some? I'm not sure that viral is necessary. Delicious was never viral in any way. Just useful. ("turksonomy" - hee)

firebones 14y ago
Okay, not viral, but I think there has to be some psychological hook for the worker that gives them benefit for the small barter of time and effort. Novelty gets you in the door, maybe boredom, but then again if I am bored, I can always just start answering election year push polls. Some way for workers to see value besides karma or a pay rate of $3/hour is what I haven't figured out yet. Viral in the classic sense might not have described delicious, but I will say that I had a much richer and more interesting and more professionally useful social network of followers and followed people on delicious than any network since...Twitter is the heir for this kind of network-filtered firehouse of interesting stuff, and Quora almost could get there, but delicious had more impact per byte than either of those. I always considered it somewhat viral in the sense that I had maybe a dozen coworker colleagues I followed plus a smattering of random people who turned out to essentially be high-signal, curating SMEs for various interest areas I needed. I am working on prototyping ideas as time allows, but still working though the examples so far.

gizzlon 14y ago

"what is in it for the worker?" My first thought exactly. This could be epic for so many things that are not practical today. Maybe the incentive could just be: To get the data, you have to participate in creating it. Would love a "how long are the lines at the nightclubs" task Edit: Maybe it's worth looking at how private torrent sites do this, there has to be an incentive to seed or it doesn't work. There's basically a ratio that can't drop too low, or a point system where you start >0. So you have to give X to get Y. Maybe let the users pay for "points".